Sunday, November 15, 2009

Re: [BLUG] My Ubuntu/Linux bitch


Jim,

Did you try the Ubu 9.10 netbook remix?  I was using the alpha builds on
my eee 900 (Celery processor) and they worked quite nicely.



On Sat, 14 Nov 2009, jim marple wrote:

> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:14:04 -0500
> From: jim marple <jimmarple@hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: Bloomington LINUX Users Group <blug@cs.indiana.edu>
> To: blug@cs.indiana.edu
> Subject: Re: [BLUG] My Ubuntu/Linux bitch
>
>
> Just for some info ubuntu 9.10 will not work correctly on a eeepc 701 4g and some 900 & certain 900a's (all Celeron's) without major tweaking.
> The overclocking and acpi utilities in 9.10 are targeted for the atom eeepc.
>
>
> The array.org kernel has most of the hard stuff already compiled into it. You should look at eeebuntu distro for that version of the eeepc.
>
>
> proud owner of a 701 4g, 900a(atom version) and 1005hab.
>
>
> jim marple
>
> __

Hey guys,

I don't normally complain, but my kids do see this computer, and since the topic has evidently changed, would you mind changing the name of the thread? I keep deleting it and it keeps popping up...

On topic (present that is), however, I have recently installed 9.10 NBR to two different eeepcs and it seems to work really well - looks and acts real polished. Mine is a 1000he, and everything works flawlessly. My mom's is a 1001ha, and the only problem with it is that the n wireless card that it has gets a week signal, which I am working on, and have hopes of fixing soon.

Thanks for your consideration of others who choose to be little more careful with their vocab...

Matthew
 

Re: [BLUG] My Ubuntu/Linux bitch

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Jim,

Did you try the Ubu 9.10 netbook remix? I was using the alpha builds on
my eee 900 (Celery processor) and they worked quite nicely.

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009, jim marple wrote:

> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:14:04 -0500
> From: jim marple <jimmarple@hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: Bloomington LINUX Users Group <blug@cs.indiana.edu>
> To: blug@cs.indiana.edu
> Subject: Re: [BLUG] My Ubuntu/Linux bitch
>
>
> Just for some info ubuntu 9.10 will not work correctly on a eeepc 701 4g and some 900 & certain 900a's (all Celeron's) without major tweaking.
> The overclocking and acpi utilities in 9.10 are targeted for the atom eeepc.
>
>
> The array.org kernel has most of the hard stuff already compiled into it. You should look at eeebuntu distro for that version of the eeepc.
>
>
> proud owner of a 701 4g, 900a(atom version) and 1005hab.
>
>
> jim marple
>
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Saturday, November 14, 2009

Re: [BLUG] My Ubuntu/Linux bitch

Just for some info ubuntu 9.10 will not work correctly on a eeepc 701 4g and some 900 & certain 900a's (all Celeron's) without major tweaking.
The overclocking and acpi utilities in 9.10 are targeted for the atom eeepc.


The array.org kernel has most of the hard stuff already compiled into it. You should look at eeebuntu distro for that version of the eeepc.


proud owner of a 701 4g, 900a(atom version) and 1005hab.


jim marple


Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star.

Re: [BLUG] My Ubuntu/Linux bitch

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Kelly McEvilly wrote:

> well, the 'cat (hd0,0)/grub/grub.conf' got me about 300 ? marks and that was it.
>
> i'll be googling all weekend long!

Seriously, first try looking around

http://www.supergrubdisk.org/


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Friday, November 13, 2009

Re: [BLUG] My Ubuntu/Linux bitch

Joe Auty wrote:
[...]
> I like Ubuntu, and I like Linux (especially on the server end of
> things), but we are so incredibly far away from the "year of Linux on
> the Desktop" it's sort of laughable.
>
> The upgrade to Ubuntu 9.10 has been a disaster for many, this has been
> widely documented online.
[...]
> I realize that every OS has its strengths and weaknesses, and I realize
> that Ubuntu is not designed to be a more conservative sort of Linux OS
> like Debian.
[...]
> My main point is more of a question. Why doesn't the Ubuntu team put a
> hold on adding new features and just work their butts off getting the
> mundane unsexy stuff to work, and in improving performance overall?
[...]
> I realize that Ubuntu may not be the most conservative choice for this
> criteria, but it is also the first Desktop Linux OS that comes to mind
> for most people.

You've answered your own question. Ubuntu is *not* a conservative,
stability-oriented distro. If that's what you want, then don't use
Ubuntu. There are plenty of other distros out there that are more
conservative, more stable, reasonably current, and yet are still known
as "user-friendly". My distro of choice, SimplyMEPIS, is one of them.
I'll grant you that Ubuntu has the largest "mind share" and gets the
most publicity, but I'll argue that it's not the best choice for an
unsophisticated user wanting to migrate from Windows.

IMO, the best Ubuntu release was Dapper. You might recall that Dapper is
v6.06, *not* v6.04 as originally intended. Why? Because it wasn't ready
in April; it wasn't until June that they had it stabilized to the point
that they felt it could/should be released. Since then, they've met
their target release dates, stability be damned.

--
Mark Warner
MEPIS Linux
Registered Linux User #415318

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Re: [BLUG] My Ubuntu/Linux bitch

That explains why the boot procedure stops at the GRUB> prompt since your grub.conf was trashed.  If you know how to create one, all you have to do is to boot to the Centos CD/DVD and at the stage when it's about to start installation, hit Ctrl-Alt-F2 to go to the alternative console and try to mount your / and /boot partitions.  This way, you can use vim to create a correct grub.conf.  E.g., at the shell prompt of the alternative console, do (assuming that your /boot is on /dev/sdb1 and / is on /dev/sdb3),

mkdir foo
mount /dev/sdb3 /foo
mount /dev/sdb1 /foo/boot
vi /foo/boot/grub/grub.conf
    # create a correct one here
/foo/sbin/grub
grub> root (hd0,0)
grub> setup (hd0)
grub> exit
umount /foo/boot
umount /foo


Reboot.  Let me know if you need help.

Good luck!
Shing-Shong

well, the 'cat (hd0,0)/grub/grub.conf' got me about 300 ? marks and that was it.  i'll be googling all weekend long!   

Re: [BLUG] My Ubuntu/Linux bitch

well, the 'cat (hd0,0)/grub/grub.conf' got me about 300 ? marks and that was it.

i'll be googling all weekend long!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shing-Shong Shei" <shei@cs.indiana.edu>
To: "Bloomington LINUX Users Group" <blug@cs.indiana.edu>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 5:16:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [BLUG] My Ubuntu/Linux bitch

You need to give more information before I can help:

1) what's your partition layout? Do you have a separate /boot
partition? If so, do you know its partition number? In my case, I have
/boot in /dev/sda1 which corresponds to (hd0,0) in grub's term. So I
can do 'cat (hd0,0)/grub/grub.conf' at the 'GRUB>' prompt to check the
contents of the grub.conf.
2) if you can see the contents of grub.conf, there are two things to try:

a) enter 'configfile (hd0,0)/grub/grub.conf' at the 'GRUB>' prompt
and see if you can boot to the kernel specified in the grub.conf
b) if it works (booting to the system you just updated), then do
'/sbin/grub' and try to set up the MBA as in
grub> root (hd0,0)
grub> setup (hd0)
grub> exit

then reboot hoping the grub will work this time.

Good luck!
Shing-Shong

> happy? i did an update on my CentOS box today and now have a black screen with:
>
> GRUB>
>
> gonna have to google that one!
>
> ah, the adventures of noobiness...
>
>
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