Monday, February 22, 2010

Re: [BLUG] uptime

Did you say uptime?

# uptime
08:28:17 up 1111 days, 23:40, 6 users, load average: 0.18, 0.12, 0.03

This is a host at Cook that does some monitoring and testing things.
Yes Yes, it needs updates.....

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 01:07:14PM GMT, Mark Warner [markwarner1954@att.net] said the following:
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> http://xkcd.com/705/
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[BLUG] uptime

http://xkcd.com/705/

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Tuesday, February 16, 2010

Re: [BLUG] BLUG meetings topics?

If anyone's ever migrated from a windows authentication environment to a linux samba environment, i'd be keenly interested in that too.

thanks!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly McEvilly" <kellym@wbhcp.com>
To: "Bloomington LINUX Users Group" <blug@cs.indiana.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 8:09:04 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [BLUG] BLUG meetings topics?

I'm in! When and Where!

I have a mail server running on Redhat that I'd really like to be able to manage more effectively.

I have a 'test box' that runs CentOS that I play with.

Total Noob though...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Krenz" <mark@slugbug.org>
To: "Bloomington LINUX Users Group" <blug@cs.indiana.edu>
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 10:12:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [BLUG] BLUG meetings topics?


Those are all well and good, but I think the first couple should get
right back to the basics. The first one can be an install session where
we can help anyone install Linux for anyone that wants too. The group
may have gotten too far away from people just getting starting with
Linux and we probably should get back to being focused more towards new
users.

While the more experienced users out there want something more
interesting to them, they can also just go find something by themselves.
They don't need as much help with Linux. They already know where to go
(sorry but its true). You'll still get the socialization you want.

I think an intro/install meeting would cover a lot of the stuff below
anyways as people ask questions about what apps to use, whether to use
Gnome or KDE, etc.

I don't think BLUG has had a real install fest since the 90s, which
seems crazy. We should try one again. So I think each meeting should
be less presentation driven and more focused on helping people
individually. Then we also could have more regular meetings, less worry
about who will present and more time for socializing. Plus people
outside the group would start to see exactly what to expect.

On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 01:44:02AM GMT, Steven Black [blacks@indiana.edu] said the following:
> On a similar note to talk about changing the meeting time, I think we
> should discuss what we want to talk about at the meetings.
>
> Do we want informational meetings? If so, what topics?
> + How do you do FOO using BAR?
> + How can you use FOO to replace the commercial/Windows-only BAR?
> + The trials and tribulations of migrating from FOO to BAR.
> + etc.
>
> Do we want reviews and/or demos of software? If so, how do we determine
> the software to review/demo?
> + Two+ people jointly review the FOO, BAR, and BAZ products to do FOOBAR.
> + Someone gives a presentation on the awesomeness of FOOBAR.
> + Recounting the awesomeness that was FOO-con, and why you should go
> + etc.
>
> Do we want to start having annual presentations on the state of FOOBAR
> software for Linux? If so, how do we determine which FOOBAR to use?
> + Graphics/3D software?
> + Office software?
> + FOOBAR-types of games
> + light-weight window managers?
> + etc.
>
> Do we want to have meetings where we plan group/community activities?
> + Install-fests?
> + CD hand-outs?
> + Bloomington Linuxfest? (A larger Indiana Linuxfest with CINLUG?)
> + Perhaps planning an annual Linux gaming night?
> + etc.
>
> Would folks be interested in changing the structure of the meeting so
> that people can get more out of it even if they're less interested in
> the core presentation?
> + Perhaps a more formal introduction with regular segments.
> - upcoming releases, software to watch, new distributions, etc.
> + (other ideas?)
>
> I'd like to see more people involved in each meeting, whether that's
> more joint presentations, small 5-10 minute regular segments of some
> sort, or if it is something more. Part of this is because many hands
> make light work, but part of it is that if there are four people which
> each contribute in some small way to the meeting, the speaker is
> guaranteed to have at least four people to listen to the presentation.
>
> I'd also like to advocate for annual presentations on particular
> software areas. Software changes quickly, and things can change fast
> while we're focussed on our day-jobs or other projects. Before we know
> it, there can be a great product that almost everyone is using, which
> we've never heard about.
>
> Cheers,
> Steven Black
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Sunday, February 7, 2010

Re: [BLUG] [Fwd]

Comments inline.

> I am new to the BLUG mailing list.

Welcome.

> I am in the process of having a desktop computer build from scratch - I
> want it to be compatible with Linux and so would like to speak with
> someone knowledgeable about hardware issues and Linux support.

I assemble computers for my workplace and for individuals. In nearly all
cases, I find that starting with a bundle of some sort from Tiger or
NewEgg gives me a good basic machine at a reasonable price, and
everything I've built in the last three years has been completely
compatible with Linux. Probably the biggest reason for that is the fact
that the components that are bundled are no longer the most current,
latest 'n greatest, cutting edge stuff, and that the kernel developers
have had time to integrate that hardware compatibility into the kernel.

> Mark Krenz recommend getting an Nvidia graphics card (ATI will work, but
> can be tricky – problems with ATI was also mentioned by another BLUG
> member). Mark also said that Intel graphics chipsets suck in general
> and cause problems. I have been looking at a Gigibyte mother board
> (GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX), but reviews on Newegg.com mention
> problems with memory slots (either the board was OK or some of the
> memory slots didn't work – or failed within 6 months). I have also read
> on the web that Asus mother boards do not play well with Linux. I am
> currently searching the Linux forums for more information. Do any of
> the BLUG have suggestions for a mother board that are reliable and
> compatible with Linux?

I would agree with Mark re: nVidia over ATI. I prefer using nVidia
chipped boards, AMD processors, and nVidia graphics. I've had good luck
with MSI, Asus, and Gigabyte boards. (And I've been badly burned on a
couple occasions by BioStar. JME. YMMV.)

It all depends on how much you want to spend, how "cutting edge" you
feel you need to be (remember, it's going to be outdated a week after
it's built), and how much horsepower you require. You can go really
basic for around $350, middle of the road for $450, and $600 will build
you a rocket ship if you shop and buy smart. My last build was for an
individual, an Asus/nVidia/AMD with a 3.0GHz dual core, 4G RAM, and
512MB integrated graphics. It came in right at $500, ran like a scared
rabbit, and should provide excellent performance for many years to come.

> I agree with Mark Warner's comment: most of "what you guys talk about
> here is waaay over my head 90% of the time." I am definitely a newbie.
> So far I have loaded Ubuntu 9.10 as a dual boot with XP – but I haven't
> worked out all of the hardware/driver problems (nor the LAN/firewall
> connections) – but still having fun.

Something doesn't sound right there. (Unless you're talking about a Wubi
install, then all bets are off.) In 98% of cases, a wired Ethernet
connection should be enabled out of the box. And frankly, if you're
running behind a NAT router, I wouldn't be too concerned about
firewalling a new desktop install. Messing with iptables, even with the
GUI front ends available, gains you little and can cause difficulties.
JMO. YMMV.

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[BLUG] [Fwd]

Warren,


Did you send the following inquiry from an e-mail you used to subscribe to the list?  It got bounced.


Thanks,
Shing-Shong

=================
Hello,

 

I am new to the BLUG mailing list. 

 

I am in the process of having a desktop computer build from scratch - I want it to be compatible with Linux and so would like to speak with someone knowledgeable about hardware issues and Linux support. 

 

Mark Krenz recommend getting an Nvidia graphics card (ATI will work, but can be tricky – problems with ATI was also mentioned by another BLUG member).  Mark also said that Intel graphics chipsets suck in general and cause problems.  I have been looking at a Gigibyte mother board (GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX), but reviews on Newegg.com mention problems with memory slots (either the board was OK or some of the memory slots didn’t work – or failed within 6 months).  I have also read on the web that Asus mother boards do not play well with Linux.  I am currently searching the Linux forums for more information.  Do any of the BLUG have suggestions for a mother board that are reliable and compatible with Linux?

 

I agree with Mark Warner’s comment: most of “what you guys talk about here is waaay over my head 90% of the time.”  I am definitely a newbie.  So far I have loaded Ubuntu 9.10 as a dual boot with XP – but I haven’t worked out all of the hardware/driver problems (nor the LAN/firewall connections) – but still having fun.

 

Have you decided on your next meeting location/date/time?   

 

Thanks,

 

Warren Wilson

Wednesday, February 3, 2010

Re: [BLUG] Linux podcasts?

I think I have mentioned it on linuxbasement as well

Linuxcranks.info is another good show as well

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On Feb 3, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:

>
> Oh, so that was you talking on the show? That's cool.
>
> On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 04:10:49PM GMT, Lord Drachenblut
> [lord.drachenblut@gmail.com] said the following:
>> Yep that would have been me who mentioned blug climagic and mark
>> krenz
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 11:35:35PM GMT, Simón Ruiz [simon.a.ruiz
>>> @gma
>>> il.com] said the following:
>>>> It's been a while, but some good names I remember include:
>>>>
>>>> The Linux Link Tech Show (Lots of dead air, but they cover a pretty
>>>> good range of stuff; adult content, often)
>>>
>>> This one actually mentions the Bloomington Linux Users Group in
>>> their
>>> Jan. 20th episode from this year. It came up when they mentioned
>>> the
>>> climagic thing I setup. Its about an hour and 20 minutes in.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [BLUG] Linux podcasts?

Oh, so that was you talking on the show? That's cool.

On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 04:10:49PM GMT, Lord Drachenblut [lord.drachenblut@gmail.com] said the following:
> Yep that would have been me who mentioned blug climagic and mark krenz
>
> Cheers
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 3, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 11:35:35PM GMT, Simón Ruiz [simon.a.ruiz@gma
> > il.com] said the following:
> >> It's been a while, but some good names I remember include:
> >>
> >> The Linux Link Tech Show (Lots of dead air, but they cover a pretty
> >> good range of stuff; adult content, often)
> >
> > This one actually mentions the Bloomington Linux Users Group in their
> > Jan. 20th episode from this year. It came up when they mentioned the
> > climagic thing I setup. Its about an hour and 20 minutes in.
> >
> >
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