Re: [BLUG] A Little Help?

Sounds good.  

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Steven Black <blacks@indiana.edu> wrote:

I wouldn't think of it as being you being a dolt.

With my reply, you might have thought I directed it to just you. My
wording *would* have been the same had I sent it to just you.

As I've seen thoughts like that crop up on the list before, though, I
wanted my response sent to the list as a whole.

Cheers,

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On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 01:06:30PM -0500, Matt Zink wrote:
> Ha! - I AM a dolt.  Oh well - feel free to sound off on the topic if'n your
> interested. . .
> Sounds like a cool pres last night.

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Re: [BLUG] A Little Help?

I wouldn't think of it as being you being a dolt.

With my reply, you might have thought I directed it to just you. My
wording *would* have been the same had I sent it to just you.

As I've seen thoughts like that crop up on the list before, though, I
wanted my response sent to the list as a whole.

Cheers,

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On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 01:06:30PM -0500, Matt Zink wrote:
> Ha! - I AM a dolt. Oh well - feel free to sound off on the topic if'n your
> interested. . .
> Sounds like a cool pres last night.

Re: [BLUG] A Little Help?

Ha! - I AM a dolt.  Oh well - feel free to sound off on the topic if'n your interested. . . 

Sounds like a cool pres last night.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 04:48:15PM GMT, Matt Zink [matthewzin@gmail.com] said the following:

> We shoudl bring it up if> we haven't already.
>

 Hehe.  <DarkVoice>We're listening to your conversation....</DarkVoice>

 Yes, the mailing list defaults to reply to list.  This feature has been
amusing at times.  But I think its worth it.


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Re: [BLUG] A Little Help?

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 04:48:15PM GMT, Matt Zink [matthewzin@gmail.com] said the following:
> We shoudl bring it up if> we haven't already.
>

Hehe. <DarkVoice>We're listening to your conversation....</DarkVoice>

Yes, the mailing list defaults to reply to list. This feature has been
amusing at times. But I think its worth it.

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Re: [BLUG] A Little Help?

Yes I agree - and in addition to the attendence issue, someone has to maintain the videos - edit, upload, maintain, trackdown/find storage, etc.  Your solution seems to be a good middle ground.  We shoudl bring it up if we haven't already.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Steven Black <blacks@indiana.edu> wrote:

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:40:57AM -0500, Matt Zink wrote:
> I'm tempted to ask what the group thinks about shooting videos of some
> of these presentations somewhere, then hosting them for clods like me
> to watch later. But I know that isn't cool for many reasons! Glad to
> hear it was cool,

This has been brought up before. We've never done it, but other LUGs
have.

Unfortunately, the LUGs that have recorded their presentations and
posted them online find it actually serves to damage the group in two
different ways:

1. Fewer people actually make it to the meeting
2. The quality of the presentations suffer as a result

When the presentations are online, people fall in to the pattern of
being lazy and just watching from home. Then, when there isn't enough
people actually attending, the presenters don't feel the pressure to do
a good job and the presentations themselves start sucking.

Personally, I favor oral presentations with written reports on the
wiki. You get something from actually being there for the presentation,
but all the resources are retained online for future members and the
community at large. This is what I did with my presentation on theming a
while back.

Cheers,
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Re: [BLUG] A Little Help?

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:40:57AM -0500, Matt Zink wrote:
> I'm tempted to ask what the group thinks about shooting videos of some
> of these presentations somewhere, then hosting them for clods like me
> to watch later. But I know that isn't cool for many reasons! Glad to
> hear it was cool,

This has been brought up before. We've never done it, but other LUGs
have.

Unfortunately, the LUGs that have recorded their presentations and
posted them online find it actually serves to damage the group in two
different ways:

1. Fewer people actually make it to the meeting
2. The quality of the presentations suffer as a result

When the presentations are online, people fall in to the pattern of
being lazy and just watching from home. Then, when there isn't enough
people actually attending, the presenters don't feel the pressure to do
a good job and the presentations themselves start sucking.

Personally, I favor oral presentations with written reports on the
wiki. You get something from actually being there for the presentation,
but all the resources are retained online for future members and the
community at large. This is what I did with my presentation on theming a
while back.

Cheers,
Steven Black

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Re: [BLUG] A Little Help?

Very cool!

I'm tempted to ask what the group thinks about shooting videos of some of these presentations somewhere, then hosting them for clods like me to watch later.  But I know that isn't cool for many reasons!  Glad to hear it was cool,

Matt

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Barry Schatz <sorbetninja@gmail.com> wrote:

The meeting was great, though not very many people showed up. The
computer element wasn't as strong as I expected, but I'm not
complaining. I'm glad I went and I learned a lot!

-Barry

matthewzin@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey All:
> I've done a thing or two from various forums to address this issue to
> no avail (I'm kind of a dolt sometimes) - I'm not even sure what this
> means.  This is what I get whenever I try to install a program, or
> update what I already have:
> */E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'
> to correct the problem.
> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
> /*Any hints?  I recognize that my "call for help" on this list may be
> classified as misuse, so please don't hesitate to tell me off list.
> If you can give me some hints, please let me know that off list as well.
>
> BTW - how was the meeting tonight?  I was really sorry to have missed
> it.  I bet it was pretty awesome.
> Matt*/
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Re: [BLUG] A Little Help?

The meeting was great, though not very many people showed up. The
computer element wasn't as strong as I expected, but I'm not
complaining. I'm glad I went and I learned a lot!

-Barry

matthewzin@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey All:
> I've done a thing or two from various forums to address this issue to
> no avail (I'm kind of a dolt sometimes) - I'm not even sure what this
> means. This is what I get whenever I try to install a program, or
> update what I already have:
> */E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'
> to correct the problem.
> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
> /*Any hints? I recognize that my "call for help" on this list may be
> classified as misuse, so please don't hesitate to tell me off list.
> If you can give me some hints, please let me know that off list as well.
>
> BTW - how was the meeting tonight? I was really sorry to have missed
> it. I bet it was pretty awesome.
> Matt*/
> /*
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Re: [BLUG] A Little Help?

Thanks Michael - I'll try it and keep you posted.  I think I tried this, but perhaps left something out.

Thanks again - real cool of you to follow up!

Matt

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Michael Schultheiss <schultmc@cinlug.org> wrote:

matthewzin@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey All:
> I've done a thing or two from various forums to address this issue to no
> avail (I'm kind of a dolt sometimes) - I'm not even sure what this
> means.  This is what I get whenever I try to install a program, or
> update what I already have:
> */E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'
> to correct the problem.
> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
> /*Any hints?

Something interrupted a package installation in the past and you need to
run 'dpkg --configure -a' to fix the issue.

Open a terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal if you're running
Ubuntu) and type:

sudo dpkg --configure -a

and the interrupted package installation should complete.
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Re: [BLUG] A Little Help?

matthewzin@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey All:
> I've done a thing or two from various forums to address this issue to no
> avail (I'm kind of a dolt sometimes) - I'm not even sure what this
> means. This is what I get whenever I try to install a program, or
> update what I already have:
> */E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'
> to correct the problem.
> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
> /*Any hints?

Something interrupted a package installation in the past and you need to
run 'dpkg --configure -a' to fix the issue.

Open a terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal if you're running
Ubuntu) and type:

sudo dpkg --configure -a

and the interrupted package installation should complete.
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