[BLUG] new Distro

I am working on a project to create a lightweight Linux workstation distro for older hardware, mainly PII and PIII machines. The goal is a functional desktop with easy installation and configuration. This is not a LiveCD like damn small linux but a complete installation distro which uses IceWM for the window manager. All of the applications from Debian stable are available post install for those who need additional software. We could use a little help with testing and a few details if anyone has time or wants to.
Deb-Ice is a customized Debian distribution uses apt for package management and the 2.6 kernel. Deb-Ice simplifys the process of installing Debian on an older machine. Currently we just have an installer which uses the Debian repositories. Once we get to version 1.0 we will release an iso for offline installation. The IceWM window manager is installed along with a selection of applications for everyday use, most of which are selected for low memory usage, although familar applications such as a Mozilla browser suite are also included for those who would rather use them. We are working on getting together the needed graphical configuration utilities as well. It is a desktop workstation distribution to simple functionality and performance on older hardware.
Basically everything is together but we need to make sure nothing important is missing or see if anyone can think of some other applications that need to be added. Things we need help with include:
* testing sound, printing
* Getting together some information (documentation and HowTos) about getting these things working for the distribution.
* There are a few broken pieces of software lying around that we would like to get included if anyone that can program in C++ or C would like to work on. These are basically just configuration utilities which are missing. debian packaging expertise would also be helpful here.
* We could use some prople who are good with graphics to create icons for the menu items, which are not completed yet.

Website is still under construction but can be found at http://icelinux.net If you would like to help out Just send me an email if you want to help out and then download the iso
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=203391
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Re: [BLUG] Postfix email router

Well, some people use them in their procmail rules or whatever. I'd
prefer for them to be accurate, meaning showing the original destination
address. I know the To: line shows that but if some people are already
counting X-Original-To being right, then......

I think Wietse thought I was doing some kind of content filtering that
was rewriting that line, but I'm not AFAIK. I was doing greylisting for
a bit, but I turned that off and am having the same problem.

Mark

On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 04:58:23AM GMT, Matt Standish [mstandish@gmail.com] said the following:
> That is the common way of redirecting mail. My X-Orinigal-To headers
> say the same thing. The important header (double check this) is the
> Return-Path header.
>
> X- headers are usually only used for informational purposes and spam
> scores. I don't think they are ever used for mail routing without
> writing your own milter to utilize them. If you still have an account
> with 'that other ISP' then I would check your headers on an email from
> that account. Email is routed the same way.
>
> Wietse usually responds quickly, I would give him a chance to see your bump.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/26/07, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
> >
> > Cool. I'm doing it through virtual users. So I have a table that has
> > values like this:
> >
> > mark@slugbug.org mark@camille.servers.suso.org
> >
> >
> > arvo.suso.org being the server that I want to have mail for that email
> > address delivered to. But the X-Original-To: header on the delivered
> > messages ends up showing mark@camille.servers.suso.org whereas I would
> > expect it to show mark@slugbug.org.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 02:49:11AM GMT, Matt Standish [mstandish@gmail.com] said the following:
> > > I do. How are you redirecting your mail? Through virtual users or transports?
> > >
> > > On 8/26/07, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone on the list have a setup where you have at least two email
> > > > servers running Postfix where one acts as a "email router" and the
> > > > second one is the delivery host.
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to set this up for Suso and have it working, except that
> > > > the X-Original-To header line is being changed to the
> > > > username@delivery.host address instead of keeping its original address.
> > > >
> > > > I've written to the postfix users mailing list, but am not getting
> > > > much help there.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > > --
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Re: [BLUG] Postfix email router

That is the common way of redirecting mail. My X-Orinigal-To headers
say the same thing. The important header (double check this) is the
Return-Path header.

X- headers are usually only used for informational purposes and spam
scores. I don't think they are ever used for mail routing without
writing your own milter to utilize them. If you still have an account
with 'that other ISP' then I would check your headers on an email from
that account. Email is routed the same way.

Wietse usually responds quickly, I would give him a chance to see your bump.

On 8/26/07, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
>
> Cool. I'm doing it through virtual users. So I have a table that has
> values like this:
>
> mark@slugbug.org mark@camille.servers.suso.org
>
>
> arvo.suso.org being the server that I want to have mail for that email
> address delivered to. But the X-Original-To: header on the delivered
> messages ends up showing mark@camille.servers.suso.org whereas I would
> expect it to show mark@slugbug.org.
>
> Mark
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 02:49:11AM GMT, Matt Standish [mstandish@gmail.com] said the following:
> > I do. How are you redirecting your mail? Through virtual users or transports?
> >
> > On 8/26/07, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone on the list have a setup where you have at least two email
> > > servers running Postfix where one acts as a "email router" and the
> > > second one is the delivery host.
> > >
> > > I'm trying to set this up for Suso and have it working, except that
> > > the X-Original-To header line is being changed to the
> > > username@delivery.host address instead of keeping its original address.
> > >
> > > I've written to the postfix users mailing list, but am not getting
> > > much help there.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark Krenz
> > > Bloomington Linux Users Group
> > > http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > BLUG mailing list
> > > BLUG@linuxfan.com
> > > http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matt Standish
> > MSN Messenger: mps_@hotmail.com
> > Yahoo Messenger: mattstandish@yahoo.com
> > Google Talk: mstandish
> > _______________________________________________
> > BLUG mailing list
> > BLUG@linuxfan.com
> > http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
> >
>
> --
> Mark Krenz
> Bloomington Linux Users Group
> http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
> _______________________________________________
> BLUG mailing list
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Re: [BLUG] Postfix email router

Cool. I'm doing it through virtual users. So I have a table that has
values like this:

mark@slugbug.org mark@camille.servers.suso.org

arvo.suso.org being the server that I want to have mail for that email
address delivered to. But the X-Original-To: header on the delivered
messages ends up showing mark@camille.servers.suso.org whereas I would
expect it to show mark@slugbug.org.

Mark

On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 02:49:11AM GMT, Matt Standish [mstandish@gmail.com] said the following:
> I do. How are you redirecting your mail? Through virtual users or transports?
>
> On 8/26/07, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone on the list have a setup where you have at least two email
> > servers running Postfix where one acts as a "email router" and the
> > second one is the delivery host.
> >
> > I'm trying to set this up for Suso and have it working, except that
> > the X-Original-To header line is being changed to the
> > username@delivery.host address instead of keeping its original address.
> >
> > I've written to the postfix users mailing list, but am not getting
> > much help there.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
> >
> > --
> > Mark Krenz
> > Bloomington Linux Users Group
> > http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
> > _______________________________________________
> > BLUG mailing list
> > BLUG@linuxfan.com
> > http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
> >
>
>
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Re: [BLUG] Postfix email router

I do. How are you redirecting your mail? Through virtual users or transports?

On 8/26/07, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
>
> Does anyone on the list have a setup where you have at least two email
> servers running Postfix where one acts as a "email router" and the
> second one is the delivery host.
>
> I'm trying to set this up for Suso and have it working, except that
> the X-Original-To header line is being changed to the
> username@delivery.host address instead of keeping its original address.
>
> I've written to the postfix users mailing list, but am not getting
> much help there.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> --
> Mark Krenz
> Bloomington Linux Users Group
> http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
> _______________________________________________
> BLUG mailing list
> BLUG@linuxfan.com
> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
>

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[BLUG] Postfix email router

Does anyone on the list have a setup where you have at least two email
servers running Postfix where one acts as a "email router" and the
second one is the delivery host.

I'm trying to set this up for Suso and have it working, except that
the X-Original-To header line is being changed to the
username@delivery.host address instead of keeping its original address.

I've written to the postfix users mailing list, but am not getting
much help there.

Thanks,
Mark

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[BLUG] BLUG website

I got sick of the spam on the BLUG wiki so I installed the
SpamBlacklist extension for mediawiki on the site. This should solve
the problem. Its worked great on Bloomingpedia.

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