Re: [BLUG] Simple wish list for Android

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Andrew Dabrowski <dabrowsa@indiana.edu> wrote:
> As someone who is toying with the idea of getting an Android phone and/or
> tablet, I'd appreciate it if you would explain the problem more precisely.
>  Does this mean Android users can't use IU's wifi system?  Is this only an
> issue with phones, or tablets too?

You'll need more local help on that, as I'm in Fort Wayne these days
and had no idea how IU's WiFi system worked, even when I live in
Bloomington.

My problem is that we don't allow Internet access except through our
proxy, which does content filtering and caching.

There does not seem to be a way to set most stock Android images to
use a proxy, including my HTC Hero, the HTC Droid Incredible, and my
new Motorola Xoom.

If you're comfortable rooting and/or re-flashing your device, it seems
there are apps on the market that will do the job and/or most
community versions of Android have the setting available by default.

That's my read of the situation, anyhow.

Simón

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Re: [BLUG] Simple wish list for Android

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As someone who is toying with the idea of getting an Android phone
and/or tablet, I'd appreciate it if you would explain the problem more
precisely. Does this mean Android users can't use IU's wifi system? Is
this only an issue with phones, or tablets too?

Re: [BLUG] Simple wish list for Android

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Lord Drachenblut
<lord.drachenblut@gmail.com> wrote:
> this isn't actually android's fault to be honest.  After a little digging
> proxy is availble in most 3rd party roms it seems and even in aosp.  This
> seems to be a issue of the handset manufacters leaving out the functionality
>
> --
> Matthew Williams

True to some extent. This is why I kind of hoped a third party apk
would do the trick.

It was my understanding that the Xoom is running vanilla Android 3.0,
though. There's no obviously Motorola software except for the logo
that comes up immediately when you turn it on.

Simón

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Re: [BLUG] Simple wish list for Android

On Thursday 21 April 2011 10:59:30 AM Simón Ruiz wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Williams, Jeffery Allen
>
> <jefjewil@indiana.edu> wrote:
> > There are a couple of applications that will setup a proxy server ASProxy
> > in the market and Transparent Proxy in other places. Unfortunately they
> > require root access on the phone. I'm not sure everyone is up to this.
> > I also vaguely remember this being brought up as part of a future
> > version of Android.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeffery Williams
> >
> > Software Engineer
> >
> > ISAT Hall
>
> Yeah, that's been my experience.
>
> The free ones I've used either don't seem to work on the devices I
> tried them on, which makes me not too enthusiastic about them, or
> require root. And I can't expect all my users to have root, or to want
> to root their phones.
>
> I also don't want to point them to pay apps for simple functionality I
> used to think of as mostly universal.
>
> I mean, I can set up all kinds of other crappy little embedded systems
> to work right on our network, any PC you can throw at me, and most
> handheld devices (including iOS)...but not my Android phone or tablet.
>
> That just kind of hurts.
>
> Simón
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this isn't actually android's fault to be honest. After a little digging
proxy is availble in most 3rd party roms it seems and even in aosp. This
seems to be a issue of the handset manufacters leaving out the functionality

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Re: [BLUG] Simple wish list for Android

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Williams, Jeffery Allen
<jefjewil@indiana.edu> wrote:
> There are a couple of applications that will setup a proxy server ASProxy in
> the market and Transparent Proxy in other places.  Unfortunately they
> require root access on the phone.  I'm not sure everyone is up to this.  I
> also vaguely remember this being brought up as part of a future version of
> Android.
>
>
>
> Jeffery Williams
>
> Software Engineer
>
> ISAT Hall

Yeah, that's been my experience.

The free ones I've used either don't seem to work on the devices I
tried them on, which makes me not too enthusiastic about them, or
require root. And I can't expect all my users to have root, or to want
to root their phones.

I also don't want to point them to pay apps for simple functionality I
used to think of as mostly universal.

I mean, I can set up all kinds of other crappy little embedded systems
to work right on our network, any PC you can throw at me, and most
handheld devices (including iOS)...but not my Android phone or tablet.

That just kind of hurts.

Simón

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Re: [BLUG] Simple wish list for Android

There are a couple of applications that will setup a proxy server ASProxy in the market and Transparent Proxy in other places.  Unfortunately they require root access on the phone.  I’m not sure everyone is up to this.  I also vaguely remember this being brought up as part of a future version of Android. 

 

Jeffery Williams

Software Engineer

ISAT Hall

 

From: blug-bounces@cs.indiana.edu [mailto:blug-bounces@cs.indiana.edu] On Behalf Of Simón Ruiz
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:11 PM
To: Fort Wayne Linux Users Group; Bloomington LINUX Users Group
Subject: [BLUG] Simple wish list for Android

 

HTTP proxy settings for the WiFi interface.

It really sucks that I can set up our students and faculty with iOS devices to get out to the Internet through our proxy, but not the Android users.

Anyone know of a good apk that might give me HTTP proxy functionality on Android?

If I could at least offer them an app to install, that'd be *something*.

Simón

[BLUG] Simple wish list for Android

HTTP proxy settings for the WiFi interface.

It really sucks that I can set up our students and faculty with iOS devices to get out to the Internet through our proxy, but not the Android users.

Anyone know of a good apk that might give me HTTP proxy functionality on Android?

If I could at least offer them an app to install, that'd be *something*.

Simón