Monday, July 18, 2011

Re: [BLUG] How many of you run home servers?

There are countless ways to try to break into a server. But in my
experience, the only one I've ever seen actually used - and I've seen
it a LOT of times - was people exploiting known security problems on
installed software. In other words, the server maintainers were
guilty of what Jonathan confesses to below: not applying security
updates. I should also confess that I have made this mistake before
and paid the same price.

It's definitely overstatement to say "just keep your system software
up to date and you'll never get hacked." So, I won't say that.
However, I think I can stand by this: "if you have a publicly
accessible server that is running out-of-date software on a publicly
accessible port, you WILL get hacked". All of the best password
selections and firewall policies and such will do you no good if
you're running a version of apache with a security hole in it. Or
something like that.

Next best advice: do not open any ports that you aren't intentionally
offering services on. Many many people will want to run SSH and HTTP
and nothing else. Some maybe just HTTP. Use a port scanner like nmap
to see which ports are available on your machine. The theory is
simple: it's fewer software programs that might be entry points to
your system if security holes are discovered in them.

But, once again, I'll just say: keep your software up to date. Ubuntu
makes this really easy. Lots of other distros do too. So, do it.

David

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 03:37:48PM -0400, Jonathan North Washington wrote:
>I run a server out of my house too, and have been doing so for about
>10 years. Actually, these days it's run out of my parents' house,
>ever since I was out of the country for a year and needed it to stay
>up; before that I ran it out of my own apartments and dorm rooms (with
>the exception of one year--see below).
>
>The server hosts a handful of sites for various people, mostly for
>myself (firespeaker.org , jnw.name) and my father
>(salonaexploration.com , northeasterngeoscience.org).
>
>I'm also curious about the questions Ben asks, though I suppose I can
>add some of my own experience to the conversation.
>
>In about 2005, when my server was hosted for a little over a year out
>of Brandeis University's LUG (also BLUG :)'s server room, it got
>rooted. This was partly my own fault for not running debian security
>updates very often and allowing root ssh (which reminds me that I need
>to check that again). This is the only real problem I've had, besides
>thunderstorms and wind taking the server down at my parents' house
>from time to time. While Comcast doesn't seem to be providing a
>static IP address service, the IP address does not seem to have
>changed at all in the last four years (since I started hosting it at
>my parents' house).
>
>--
>Jonathan
>
>On 18 July 2011 15:20, Ben Shewmaker <ben@shewbox.org> wrote:
>> I've been running a server on my home machine for some time now and
>> was just curious how many others out there do the same?  And I'm also
>> wondering about security of my home machine.  I'm running AjaxXplorer
>> on this machine to serve up some photos/videos from my home computer,
>> and, while it does us https, I wonder sometimes about how wise it in
>> terms of a security risk.  I also use Dyndns so I don't have to worry
>> about my changing IP and wonder if having a domain redirect from a
>> dyndns hostname makes me more of a target?  I like to imagine that
>> spyware and viruses on my windows machine are a much bigger threat
>> than someone trying to hack into my little ubuntu server machine, but
>> I thought I'd ask anyone out there if they have any opinions?
>>
>> Thanks, and I hope everyone's A/C is working well both for your sanity
>> and any little home servers you may be running!
>>
>> Ben
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Re: [BLUG] How many of you run home servers?

I run a server out of my house too, and have been doing so for about
10 years. Actually, these days it's run out of my parents' house,
ever since I was out of the country for a year and needed it to stay
up; before that I ran it out of my own apartments and dorm rooms (with
the exception of one year--see below).

The server hosts a handful of sites for various people, mostly for
myself (firespeaker.org , jnw.name) and my father
(salonaexploration.com , northeasterngeoscience.org).

I'm also curious about the questions Ben asks, though I suppose I can
add some of my own experience to the conversation.

In about 2005, when my server was hosted for a little over a year out
of Brandeis University's LUG (also BLUG :)'s server room, it got
rooted. This was partly my own fault for not running debian security
updates very often and allowing root ssh (which reminds me that I need
to check that again). This is the only real problem I've had, besides
thunderstorms and wind taking the server down at my parents' house
from time to time. While Comcast doesn't seem to be providing a
static IP address service, the IP address does not seem to have
changed at all in the last four years (since I started hosting it at
my parents' house).

--
Jonathan

On 18 July 2011 15:20, Ben Shewmaker <ben@shewbox.org> wrote:
> I've been running a server on my home machine for some time now and
> was just curious how many others out there do the same?  And I'm also
> wondering about security of my home machine.  I'm running AjaxXplorer
> on this machine to serve up some photos/videos from my home computer,
> and, while it does us https, I wonder sometimes about how wise it in
> terms of a security risk.  I also use Dyndns so I don't have to worry
> about my changing IP and wonder if having a domain redirect from a
> dyndns hostname makes me more of a target?  I like to imagine that
> spyware and viruses on my windows machine are a much bigger threat
> than someone trying to hack into my little ubuntu server machine, but
> I thought I'd ask anyone out there if they have any opinions?
>
> Thanks, and I hope everyone's A/C is working well both for your sanity
> and any little home servers you may be running!
>
> Ben
> _______________________________________________
> BLUG mailing list
> BLUG@linuxfan.com
> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
>

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[BLUG] How many of you run home servers?

I've been running a server on my home machine for some time now and
was just curious how many others out there do the same? And I'm also
wondering about security of my home machine. I'm running AjaxXplorer
on this machine to serve up some photos/videos from my home computer,
and, while it does us https, I wonder sometimes about how wise it in
terms of a security risk. I also use Dyndns so I don't have to worry
about my changing IP and wonder if having a domain redirect from a
dyndns hostname makes me more of a target? I like to imagine that
spyware and viruses on my windows machine are a much bigger threat
than someone trying to hack into my little ubuntu server machine, but
I thought I'd ask anyone out there if they have any opinions?

Thanks, and I hope everyone's A/C is working well both for your sanity
and any little home servers you may be running!

Ben
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Wednesday, June 15, 2011

Re: [BLUG] Mounting a Linux drive in Windows

Kelly McEvilly wrote:

> Any ideas on what I need to do or a shop where I could take the drive in
> Bloomington to have the stuff pulled off would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.fs-driver.org/

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Re: [BLUG] Mounting a Linux drive in Windows

There is always a live CD. I have used live CDs to copy things to/from problem systems for years. The Windows-based access is nice, but if it uses an unusual partition table (or something other than ext[23]) a live CD may be easiest/fastest.

Cheers,
Steven Black

On Jun 15, 2011 4:44 PM, "Richard Knepper" <rknepper@indiana.edu> wrote:
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> I use http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/ to access ext2 files on
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>
> - -Rich
>
> On 06/15/2011 04:35 PM, Kelly McEvilly wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I had a Buffalo Linkstation NAS die on me. It is linux based.
>>
>> I believe it was the NAS device itself that died and that the hard drive
>> is still OK. I still spins up fine and show up as a ATA/ATAPI drive
>> when plugged in via a USB cable to a Windows box. I just can't figure
>> out for the life of me how to access the drive via Windows so I can copy
>> the files off of it.
>>
>> Any ideas on what I need to do or a shop where I could take the drive in
>> Bloomington to have the stuff pulled off would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kelly
>>
>>
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I use http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/ to access ext2 files on
windows machines. It's pretty simple to install/manage.

- -Rich

On 06/15/2011 04:35 PM, Kelly McEvilly wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I had a Buffalo Linkstation NAS die on me. It is linux based.
>
> I believe it was the NAS device itself that died and that the hard drive
> is still OK. I still spins up fine and show up as a ATA/ATAPI drive
> when plugged in via a USB cable to a Windows box. I just can't figure
> out for the life of me how to access the drive via Windows so I can copy
> the files off of it.
>
> Any ideas on what I need to do or a shop where I could take the drive in
> Bloomington to have the stuff pulled off would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Kelly
>
>
>
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> BLUG mailing list
> BLUG@linuxfan.com
> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug

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[BLUG] Mounting a Linux drive in Windows

Hi,

I had a Buffalo Linkstation NAS die on me.  It is linux based.

I believe it was the NAS device itself that died and that the hard drive is still OK.  I still spins up fine and show up as a ATA/ATAPI drive when plugged in via a USB cable to a Windows box.  I just can't figure out for the life of me how to access the drive via Windows so I can copy the files off of it.

Any ideas on what I need to do or a shop where I could take the drive in Bloomington to have the stuff pulled off would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kelly