BLUG: 04/19/07

Thursday, April 19, 2007

Re: [BLUG] Open Source Second Life!

On 4/19/07, Jeff Welty <jtwelty@indiana.edu> wrote:
> There is a report that Linden Labs are using around 4000 servers now...
> if that's true, buy this person's calculations, they consume as much
> electricity as all the people in Brazil:
> http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2006/12/avatars_consume.php
> Second Life is really amazing - you can do almost anything there.
> Therefore, it's almost as good as zombo.com, where you can do literally
> anything.
> Jeff

Except that zombo.com does it much more efficiently, less electricity
to do the same thing. Zombo, the green alternative to Second Life.

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Re: [BLUG] Open Source Second Life!

For comparison, there are a few webhosting companies that claim to
have as many as 26,000 servers. Google supposibly has over 100,000
servers. And those are 1 or 2 year old figures.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 07:43:09PM GMT, Jeff Welty [jtwelty@indiana.edu] said the following:
> There is a report that Linden Labs are using around 4000 servers now...
> if that's true, buy this person's calculations, they consume as much
> electricity as all the people in Brazil:
> http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2006/12/avatars_consume.php
> Second Life is really amazing - you can do almost anything there.
> Therefore, it's almost as good as zombo.com, where you can do literally
> anything.
> Jeff
>
>
> Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:
> >Mark Krenz wrote:
> >
> >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/social/?p=142
> >>
> >> I mentioned during a BLUG meeting that I thought someone needs to
> >>develop and open protocol 3d distributed network. I can't believe
> >>that Linden Labs is choosing to do that. But that's great.
> >>
> >
> >There was an article in Baseline magazine a few months ago about Linden
> >Labs, talking about their infrastructure. At the time of writing, they
> >had 1800 Debian servers running their databases, a handful running their
> >Internet-facing web servers, and said they were adding an average of a
> >rack full (42) of 1U servers a week to keep up...
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [BLUG] Open Source Second Life!

There is a report that Linden Labs are using around 4000 servers now...
if that's true, buy this person's calculations, they consume as much
electricity as all the people in Brazil:
http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2006/12/avatars_consume.php
Second Life is really amazing - you can do almost anything there.
Therefore, it's almost as good as zombo.com, where you can do literally
anything.
Jeff

Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:
> Mark Krenz wrote:
>
>>

http://blogs.zdnet.com/social/?p=142
>>
>> I mentioned during a BLUG meeting that I thought someone needs to
>> develop and open protocol 3d distributed network. I can't believe
>> that Linden Labs is choosing to do that. But that's great.
>>
>
> There was an article in Baseline magazine a few months ago about Linden
> Labs, talking about their infrastructure. At the time of writing, they
> had 1800 Debian servers running their databases, a handful running their
> Internet-facing web servers, and said they were adding an average of a
> rack full (42) of 1U servers a week to keep up...
>
>
>

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Re: [BLUG] Open Source Second Life!

I mean there will undoubtedly be a project that is more open than the
Linden Labs one. Its a trend that happens time and time again.

1. Company releases product as open source
2. Some people work on product in step 1.
3. Another group of [paranoid] coders take algorithms from step 1
and make a community project.
4. Majority of users go with community project in the end because the
FLOSS religion considers non-community projects taboo.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 07:16:20PM GMT, Simón Ruiz [simon.a.ruiz@gmail.com] said the following:
> Neat! I must say I didn't expect them to do it.
>
> The client has been open sourced for a while though, Mark, or do you
> mean a different client?
>
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Re: [BLUG] BLUG + RSS = Cool linux website...

I got it so now as soon as people send messages it posts it and you can sort by day.

RE: [BLUG] Open Source Second Life!

Mark Krenz wrote:
>

http://blogs.zdnet.com/social/?p=142
>
> I mentioned during a BLUG meeting that I thought someone needs to
> develop and open protocol 3d distributed network. I can't believe
> that Linden Labs is choosing to do that. But that's great.

There was an article in Baseline magazine a few months ago about Linden
Labs, talking about their infrastructure. At the time of writing, they
had 1800 Debian servers running their databases, a handful running their
Internet-facing web servers, and said they were adding an average of a
rack full (42) of 1U servers a week to keep up...

--
Jeremy L. Gaddis
Network Administrator
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Re: [BLUG] Open Source Second Life!

Mark Krenz wrote:
> I'm sure there will be an open source 3d client project for it very
> soon. And some ancillary projects.

Linden Labs already opensourced the Second Life client. People were
wondering if/when they were going to open source the server.
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Re: [BLUG] Open Source Second Life!

Neat! I must say I didn't expect them to do it.

The client has been open sourced for a while though, Mark, or do you
mean a different client?

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[BLUG] Open Source Second Life!

http://blogs.zdnet.com/social/?p=142

I mentioned during a BLUG meeting that I thought someone needs to
develop and open protocol 3d distributed network. I can't believe that
Linden Labs is choosing to do that. But that's great.

If you want to get involved in the future, open source distributed 3d
evironment protocols are where its at.

I'm sure there will be an open source 3d client project for it very
soon. And some ancillary projects.

RE: [BLUG] BLUG + RSS = Cool linux website...

Simón Ruiz wrote:
> I make heavy use of RSS, myself, (too heavy, really) but with a
> mailing list it's always nice to be able to hit "Reply" when the fancy
> strikes. :-)

Yeah, I wonder how functional it will actually be. There's an online archive available, I believe, and having an RSS feed sorted by date of posts doesn't really "thread" well. It's not often that there's multiple threads on the list active at the same time, but it does happen. As a proof of concept, though, it is kinda neat. =)

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Re: [BLUG] Ubuntu 7.04

Hey, thanks! I'll forward that on to the Indiana LoCo Team.

I'm getting almost 1 MB/sec sitting here on the MCCSC network!!!

On 4/19/07, Matt Standish <mstandish@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you are looking for a fast mirror look no further than here:
>
> http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/7.04/
> http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/7.04/
> http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/edubuntu/7.04/
>
>
> We are stressing our server and it is still rockin. Feel free to
> point people here.
>
>
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Re: [BLUG] Ubuntu 7.04

I might be able to grab some towards the end of the day. I'll talk to
the guy who admins it.

On 4/19/07, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
>
> I'd be curious to see some numbers if you can share them. How much
> load is it putting on your server? How fast is the server?
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 02:35:28PM GMT, Matt Standish [mstandish@gmail.com] said the following:
> > If you are looking for a fast mirror look no further than here:
> >
> > http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/7.04/
> > http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/7.04/
> > http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/edubuntu/7.04/
> >
> >
> > We are stressing our server and it is still rockin. Feel free to
> > point people here.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matt Standish
> > MSN Messenger: mps_@hotmail.com
> > Yahoo Messenger: mattstandish@yahoo.com
> > Google Talk: mstandish
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
> >
>
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> Bloomington Linux Users Group
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Re: [BLUG] Ubuntu 7.04

I'd be curious to see some numbers if you can share them. How much
load is it putting on your server? How fast is the server?

On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 02:35:28PM GMT, Matt Standish [mstandish@gmail.com] said the following:
> If you are looking for a fast mirror look no further than here:
>
> http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/7.04/
> http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/7.04/
> http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/edubuntu/7.04/
>
>
> We are stressing our server and it is still rockin. Feel free to
> point people here.
>
>
> --
> Matt Standish
> MSN Messenger: mps_@hotmail.com
> Yahoo Messenger: mattstandish@yahoo.com
> Google Talk: mstandish
> _______________________________________________
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> BLUG@linuxfan.com
> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
>

[BLUG] Ubuntu 7.04

If you are looking for a fast mirror look no further than here:

http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/7.04/
http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/7.04/
http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/edubuntu/7.04/

We are stressing our server and it is still rockin. Feel free to
point people here.

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