Thursday, July 30, 2009

Re: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

Great idea for a common problem and priced well FTW!

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 06:23:46PM GMT, Jordan Thevenow-Harrison [jtth@jtth.net] said the following:
> No, silly. Clocky the robot clock!
> http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~nanda/projects/clocky.html

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Re: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

No, silly. Clocky the robot clock!
http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~nanda/projects/clocky.html
--
Jordan Thevenow-Harrison
jtth@jtth.net

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 13:28, Steven Black<blacks@indiana.edu> wrote:
> Jordan: Clocky? Is that a name for a pet rooster?
>
> -- Steven Black
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:29:30AM -0400, Jordan Thevenow-Harrison wrote:
>> Yeah, this happened to me. Luckily my Clocky woke me up at the right
>> time. It seems like someone must have actively changed something to
>> make this happen. Also, liabilities?
>> --
>> Jordan Thevenow-Harrison
>> jtth@jtth.net
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:26, Barry Schatz<sorbetninja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Who in the Bloomington area noticed that their cell phone had the wrong
>> > time? I woke up and noticed that my cell phone (which serves as my alarm
>> > clock) was an hour behind my normal clock (a simple clock radio from
>> > Radio Shack). I went to my computer and tried date, ntpdate, date again,
>> > date -u, and I realized that I was late for work.
>> >
>> > My girlfriend and a bunch of people at Cook were affected, and a lot of
>> > people at my job we similarly bothered that the cell tower didn't send a
>> > reliable timestamp. It seems the Bloomington ATT cell tower is on CDT
>> > (GMT-5) instead of EDT (GMT-4). Who else got bit?
>> >
>> > And now, my obligatory rant about timezones. It's (mostly) a joke.
>> > If we did away with timezones, this wouldn't be an issue. No time
>> > changes, no wondering what time it is in another part of the world, and
>> > greatly reduced jetlag would all be benefits. The weather reports
>> > already have sunrise and sunset times, so it can't be that hard to add
>> > in local high noon and midnight times as well. The workday in the
>> > "Eastern" timezone would go from 12:00 through 20:00. Best of all, we
>> > wouldn't have the nasty uptick in driving accidents and fatalities every
>> > Spring when daylight savings time steals an hour.
>> >
>> > -Barry
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > BLUG@linuxfan.com
>> > http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
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Re: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:26:19PM GMT, Barry Schatz [sorbetninja@gmail.com] said the following:
>
> And now, my obligatory rant about timezones. It's (mostly) a joke.
> If we did away with timezones, this wouldn't be an issue. No time
> changes, no wondering what time it is in another part of the world, and
> greatly reduced jetlag would all be benefits. The weather reports
> already have sunrise and sunset times, so it can't be that hard to add
> in local high noon and midnight times as well. The workday in the
> "Eastern" timezone would go from 12:00 through 20:00. Best of all, we
> wouldn't have the nasty uptick in driving accidents and fatalities every
> Spring when daylight savings time steals an hour.
>

Something I've learned over the years is that in a debate of stupidity
vs. intelligence, stupidity usually wins for quite intelligent reasons.

XXX
XXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXX X
XXXXXXXXXXXX XXX
Everyone You
else

Being a Linux list, I think its safe to say that everyone on the list
falls into the right side of the graph or at least in the right half of
the graph. Unfortunately, what happens is that the left side of the
graph is full of complainers and people who don't want to
learn/work/care. But strangely enough they also represent a large amount
of money and a lot of voting power that is mostly controlled by the
person on the TV who can wave a magic wand. So it winds up being a
stupid PR problem. In order to appease the left part of the graph and
keep the money and votes flowing, the right part has to "settle" and
then we get stuck with crap.

Many things have benefited from this property including:

VHS
Microsoft
AOL
Reality TV shows
George W. Bush
Florida

If you want to succeed in this world, you have to be able to leverage
stupidity and try to avoid being part of a two-way decision.
Unfortunately the tech industry is riddled with those.

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Re: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

Jordan: Clocky? Is that a name for a pet rooster?

-- Steven Black

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:29:30AM -0400, Jordan Thevenow-Harrison wrote:
> Yeah, this happened to me. Luckily my Clocky woke me up at the right
> time. It seems like someone must have actively changed something to
> make this happen. Also, liabilities?
> --
> Jordan Thevenow-Harrison
> jtth@jtth.net
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:26, Barry Schatz<sorbetninja@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Who in the Bloomington area noticed that their cell phone had the wrong
> > time? I woke up and noticed that my cell phone (which serves as my alarm
> > clock) was an hour behind my normal clock (a simple clock radio from
> > Radio Shack). I went to my computer and tried date, ntpdate, date again,
> > date -u, and I realized that I was late for work.
> >
> > My girlfriend and a bunch of people at Cook were affected, and a lot of
> > people at my job we similarly bothered that the cell tower didn't send a
> > reliable timestamp. It seems the Bloomington ATT cell tower is on CDT
> > (GMT-5) instead of EDT (GMT-4). Who else got bit?
> >
> > And now, my obligatory rant about timezones. It's (mostly) a joke.
> > If we did away with timezones, this wouldn't be an issue. No time
> > changes, no wondering what time it is in another part of the world, and
> > greatly reduced jetlag would all be benefits. The weather reports
> > already have sunrise and sunset times, so it can't be that hard to add
> > in local high noon and midnight times as well. The workday in the
> > "Eastern" timezone would go from 12:00 through 20:00. Best of all, we
> > wouldn't have the nasty uptick in driving accidents and fatalities every
> > Spring when daylight savings time steals an hour.
> >
> > -Barry
> > _______________________________________________
> > BLUG mailing list
> > BLUG@linuxfan.com
> > http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
> >
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Re: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

Same here.  I always look at the cell phone to tell time, but my wife always relies on her alarm clock, so luckily we didn't oversleep.  Confused the hell out of me when I looked at my phone though.  Her's was the same as well.  1 hour behind. 

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Jeremy L. Gaddis <jeremy@evilrouters.net> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Cornn, Jessica
Spring<jcornn@indiana.edu> wrote:
> Mine did the same thing.  I think it happened sometime around 5am.  Fortunately, I was awake by then.

A friend (on AT&T) SMS'd me at 2:11AM to ask what time it was.  Both
his and his girlfriend's phones were showing 1:11AM.

<insert obligatory rant about how much AT&T sucks here>

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Re: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Kirk Gleason<kgleason@gmail.com> wrote:
> It happened to my wife and a bunch of people that I work with, but not me. She had her iPhone to pull time from the cell network, but I don't trust em, so I have my BB set to manual. Guess who was on time for work this morning? ;-)

>From the HT, on Twitter:

"Local woman late to work because of time glitch in her ATT phone gets
$25 credit from ATT."

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Re: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Cornn, Jessica
Spring<jcornn@indiana.edu> wrote:
> Mine did the same thing.  I think it happened sometime around 5am.  Fortunately, I was awake by then.

A friend (on AT&T) SMS'd me at 2:11AM to ask what time it was. Both
his and his girlfriend's phones were showing 1:11AM.

<insert obligatory rant about how much AT&T sucks here>

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Re: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

It happened to my wife and a bunch of people that I work with, but not me. She had her iPhone to pull time from the cell network, but I don't trust em, so I have my BB set to manual. Guess who was on time for work this morning? ;-)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jordan Thevenow-Harrison" <jtth@jtth.net>
To: "Bloomington LINUX Users Group" <blug@cs.indiana.edu>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:29:30 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

Yeah, this happened to me. Luckily my Clocky woke me up at the right
time. It seems like someone must have actively changed something to
make this happen. Also, liabilities?
--
Jordan Thevenow-Harrison
jtth@jtth.net

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:26, Barry Schatz<sorbetninja@gmail.com> wrote:
> Who in the Bloomington area noticed that their cell phone had the wrong
> time? I woke up and noticed that my cell phone (which serves as my alarm
> clock) was an hour behind my normal clock (a simple clock radio from
> Radio Shack). I went to my computer and tried date, ntpdate, date again,
> date -u, and I realized that I was late for work.
>
> My girlfriend and a bunch of people at Cook were affected, and a lot of
> people at my job we similarly bothered that the cell tower didn't send a
> reliable timestamp. It seems the Bloomington ATT cell tower is on CDT
> (GMT-5) instead of EDT (GMT-4). Who else got bit?
>
> And now, my obligatory rant about timezones. It's (mostly) a joke.
> If we did away with timezones, this wouldn't be an issue. No time
> changes, no wondering what time it is in another part of the world, and
> greatly reduced jetlag would all be benefits. The weather reports
> already have sunrise and sunset times, so it can't be that hard to add
> in local high noon and midnight times as well. The workday in the
> "Eastern" timezone would go from 12:00 through 20:00. Best of all, we
> wouldn't have the nasty uptick in driving accidents and fatalities every
> Spring when daylight savings time steals an hour.
>
> -Barry
> _______________________________________________
> BLUG mailing list
> BLUG@linuxfan.com
> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
>
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RE: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

Mine did the same thing. I think it happened sometime around 5am. Fortunately, I was awake by then.
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From: blug-bounces@cs.indiana.edu [blug-bounces@cs.indiana.edu] On Behalf Of Barry Schatz [sorbetninja@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:26 AM
To: Bloomington LINUX Users Group
Subject: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

Who in the Bloomington area noticed that their cell phone had the wrong
time? I woke up and noticed that my cell phone (which serves as my alarm
clock) was an hour behind my normal clock (a simple clock radio from
Radio Shack). I went to my computer and tried date, ntpdate, date again,
date -u, and I realized that I was late for work.

My girlfriend and a bunch of people at Cook were affected, and a lot of
people at my job we similarly bothered that the cell tower didn't send a
reliable timestamp. It seems the Bloomington ATT cell tower is on CDT
(GMT-5) instead of EDT (GMT-4). Who else got bit?

And now, my obligatory rant about timezones. It's (mostly) a joke.
If we did away with timezones, this wouldn't be an issue. No time
changes, no wondering what time it is in another part of the world, and
greatly reduced jetlag would all be benefits. The weather reports
already have sunrise and sunset times, so it can't be that hard to add
in local high noon and midnight times as well. The workday in the
"Eastern" timezone would go from 12:00 through 20:00. Best of all, we
wouldn't have the nasty uptick in driving accidents and fatalities every
Spring when daylight savings time steals an hour.

-Barry
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Re: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

Yeah, this happened to me. Luckily my Clocky woke me up at the right
time. It seems like someone must have actively changed something to
make this happen. Also, liabilities?
--
Jordan Thevenow-Harrison
jtth@jtth.net

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:26, Barry Schatz<sorbetninja@gmail.com> wrote:
> Who in the Bloomington area noticed that their cell phone had the wrong
> time? I woke up and noticed that my cell phone (which serves as my alarm
> clock) was an hour behind my normal clock (a simple clock radio from
> Radio Shack). I went to my computer and tried date, ntpdate, date again,
> date -u, and I realized that I was late for work.
>
> My girlfriend and a bunch of people at Cook were affected, and a lot of
> people at my job we similarly bothered that the cell tower didn't send a
> reliable timestamp. It seems the Bloomington ATT cell tower is on CDT
> (GMT-5) instead of EDT (GMT-4). Who else got bit?
>
> And now, my obligatory rant about timezones. It's (mostly) a joke.
> If we did away with timezones, this wouldn't be an issue. No time
> changes, no wondering what time it is in another part of the world, and
> greatly reduced jetlag would all be benefits. The weather reports
> already have sunrise and sunset times, so it can't be that hard to add
> in local high noon and midnight times as well. The workday in the
> "Eastern" timezone would go from 12:00 through 20:00. Best of all, we
> wouldn't have the nasty uptick in driving accidents and fatalities every
> Spring when daylight savings time steals an hour.
>
> -Barry
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
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Re: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

Yep, mine's an hour off. Weird. Must be what Apple has been warning
people about when jail-breaking their iPhones! *rolls eyes*

On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 11:26 -0400, Barry Schatz wrote:
> Who in the Bloomington area noticed that their cell phone had the wrong
> time? I woke up and noticed that my cell phone (which serves as my alarm
> clock) was an hour behind my normal clock (a simple clock radio from
> Radio Shack). I went to my computer and tried date, ntpdate, date again,
> date -u, and I realized that I was late for work.
>
> My girlfriend and a bunch of people at Cook were affected, and a lot of
> people at my job we similarly bothered that the cell tower didn't send a
> reliable timestamp. It seems the Bloomington ATT cell tower is on CDT
> (GMT-5) instead of EDT (GMT-4). Who else got bit?
>
> And now, my obligatory rant about timezones. It's (mostly) a joke.
> If we did away with timezones, this wouldn't be an issue. No time
> changes, no wondering what time it is in another part of the world, and
> greatly reduced jetlag would all be benefits. The weather reports
> already have sunrise and sunset times, so it can't be that hard to add
> in local high noon and midnight times as well. The workday in the
> "Eastern" timezone would go from 12:00 through 20:00. Best of all, we
> wouldn't have the nasty uptick in driving accidents and fatalities every
> Spring when daylight savings time steals an hour.
>
> -Barry
> _______________________________________________
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[BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

Who in the Bloomington area noticed that their cell phone had the wrong
time? I woke up and noticed that my cell phone (which serves as my alarm
clock) was an hour behind my normal clock (a simple clock radio from
Radio Shack). I went to my computer and tried date, ntpdate, date again,
date -u, and I realized that I was late for work.

My girlfriend and a bunch of people at Cook were affected, and a lot of
people at my job we similarly bothered that the cell tower didn't send a
reliable timestamp. It seems the Bloomington ATT cell tower is on CDT
(GMT-5) instead of EDT (GMT-4). Who else got bit?

And now, my obligatory rant about timezones. It's (mostly) a joke.
If we did away with timezones, this wouldn't be an issue. No time
changes, no wondering what time it is in another part of the world, and
greatly reduced jetlag would all be benefits. The weather reports
already have sunrise and sunset times, so it can't be that hard to add
in local high noon and midnight times as well. The workday in the
"Eastern" timezone would go from 12:00 through 20:00. Best of all, we
wouldn't have the nasty uptick in driving accidents and fatalities every
Spring when daylight savings time steals an hour.

-Barry
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