Wednesday, December 30, 2009

Re: [BLUG] What size terminal do you use?

I use ROXTerm at 80x24, just because that size doesn't seem too big or
too small. I use a smallish font so it doesn't take up too much space
on my netbook screen--less than ⅔ of both the horizontal and vertical
space. I also use a gtk theme with very short tabs to save on screen
real estate.

ROXTerm is based on gnome-terminal (so's also a familiar-feeling
tabbed gtk2 terminal), but seems to be faster and has much better
options for configuration (and also a couple bugs). It's also
designed to go with other ROX software, such as ROX filer and ROX's
session manager, both of which I use.

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2009/12/30 Steven Black <blacks@indiana.edu>:
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 02:52:52PM +0000, Mark Krenz wrote:
>>   Quick poll. If you use some specific size for your terminal (xterm,
>> aterm, gnome-terminal, konsole, etc.), what size do you use and why?
>> Also, curious about what terminal you use specifically these days.
>
> I currently use Konsole.
>
> I have the ncurses-term package installed, so my TERM is set to
> "konsole". I like well defined terminal characteristics, so I don't
> like terminals to use 'xterm' unless they're 100% xterm compatible.
> Neither gnome-terminal nor konsole is 100% compatible. (To be 100%
> compatible you need (1) Tektronix mode, and (2) to fail under the same
> circumstances as xterm.) Additionally, using the stock 'xterm' requires
> that apps either ignore the terminfo characteristics or are limited to
> 16 colors. A proper terminfo would list whether you support extended
> colors like xterm-256 or xterm-88.
>
> I enjoy roguelike games, and poorly defined terminals are the bane of
> nice roguelike games.
>
> In the office, I use terminals that are 24/25 rows, and either 80
> columns or a little more to fill. (10 pt. font, usually two windows at
> the bottom of the screen, with a browser and IRC/IM/etc client filling
> the upper half of that monitor)
>
> At home, where the light is more variable and the distance to the laptop
> tends to also be more variable than my seating at work, I have settings
> which are designed to be gentle on my eyes: Monospace font at 14 pt,
> between 80 and about 94 columns (I rarely maximize the width), and it is
> usually maximized vertically giving me 37 rows.
>
> I also leverage custom color sets, due to my inability to easily read
> dark blue on black (which always seems painfully popular in color
> apps). I use custom dark-background colors, and a custom inverted
> color set. The inverted color set is easier on my eyes in low-power
> settings on my laptop, (I can read it with the display set to dimmest
> with plenty of ambient light), and is specifically designed so that I
> can continue using apps which become illegible if you simply swap the
> default foreground/background colors.
>
> Back in my youth, I'd use SVGATextMode to get Linux consoles in hi-res
> text modes. These days I figure if I'm not kind on my eyes early,
> they'll only give me more trouble later.
>
> While working, I use tabs and more than one terminal emulator, but when
> I'm off-work I'm 100% GNU Screen with a single terminal emulator.
>
> Cheers,
> Steven Black
>
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Re: [BLUG] New Years Countdown timer

I ran the script and found (1) I didn't have figlet installed, and (2) it
suggested I install either figlet or toilet. I installed them both, but
I think I like toilet's default letters better.

In fact, here's my extended edition of the command (wrapped to be easy
to read, but with line-continuation so you can copy/paste):

while V=$((`date +%s -d"2010-01-01"`-`date +%s`)); do \
if [ $V == 0 ]; then \
toilet -f smmono12 --gay 'Happy New Year!'; \
break; \
else \
clear; \
toilet -f bigmono12 --gay $V; \
sleep 1; \
fi; \
done

I think the --gay toilet is just thing the any New Year's bash.

Cheers,
Steven Black

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 06:43:48PM +0000, Mark Krenz wrote:
>
>
> This is what I just posted to the climagic account on twitter and
> identi.ca:
>
> while V=$((`date +%s -d"2010-01-01"`-`date +%s`));do if [ $V == 0 ];then figlet 'Happy New Year!';break;else figlet $V;sleep 1;clear;fi;done
>
> Of course I was limited to 140 characters. Anyways, I thought some
> people here might appreciate this little snippet.

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Re: [BLUG] What size terminal do you use?

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 02:52:52PM +0000, Mark Krenz wrote:
> Quick poll. If you use some specific size for your terminal (xterm,
> aterm, gnome-terminal, konsole, etc.), what size do you use and why?
> Also, curious about what terminal you use specifically these days.

I currently use Konsole.

I have the ncurses-term package installed, so my TERM is set to
"konsole". I like well defined terminal characteristics, so I don't
like terminals to use 'xterm' unless they're 100% xterm compatible.
Neither gnome-terminal nor konsole is 100% compatible. (To be 100%
compatible you need (1) Tektronix mode, and (2) to fail under the same
circumstances as xterm.) Additionally, using the stock 'xterm' requires
that apps either ignore the terminfo characteristics or are limited to
16 colors. A proper terminfo would list whether you support extended
colors like xterm-256 or xterm-88.

I enjoy roguelike games, and poorly defined terminals are the bane of
nice roguelike games.

In the office, I use terminals that are 24/25 rows, and either 80
columns or a little more to fill. (10 pt. font, usually two windows at
the bottom of the screen, with a browser and IRC/IM/etc client filling
the upper half of that monitor)

At home, where the light is more variable and the distance to the laptop
tends to also be more variable than my seating at work, I have settings
which are designed to be gentle on my eyes: Monospace font at 14 pt,
between 80 and about 94 columns (I rarely maximize the width), and it is
usually maximized vertically giving me 37 rows.

I also leverage custom color sets, due to my inability to easily read
dark blue on black (which always seems painfully popular in color
apps). I use custom dark-background colors, and a custom inverted
color set. The inverted color set is easier on my eyes in low-power
settings on my laptop, (I can read it with the display set to dimmest
with plenty of ambient light), and is specifically designed so that I
can continue using apps which become illegible if you simply swap the
default foreground/background colors.

Back in my youth, I'd use SVGATextMode to get Linux consoles in hi-res
text modes. These days I figure if I'm not kind on my eyes early,
they'll only give me more trouble later.

While working, I use tabs and more than one terminal emulator, but when
I'm off-work I'm 100% GNU Screen with a single terminal emulator.

Cheers,
Steven Black

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Re: [BLUG] What size terminal do you use?

On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:52:52 -0500, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:

> Quick poll. If you use some specific size for your terminal (xterm,
> aterm, gnome-terminal, konsole, etc.), what size do you use and why?
> Also, curious about what terminal you use specifically these days.

I tend to use the most native terminal for the Environment in which I am
working. If that is something like XFCE, then I use the XFCE Terminal, if
KDE, then I use Konsole, if something like MaXX or Mwm, then I use the
xterm(1). The only one on which I really both to adjust the fonts is the
xterm, where they are almost always a little too small. I usually use
something around a 10 point font. I like to keep my terminal width
constant to about 80 columns, but I will scale the height up and down
depending on the task at hand. As I almost never edit directly in the
terminal, I don't care so much about that.

The reason I don't usually adjust the fonts explicitly is because I set
default fonts in my environment that suits. Usually this is something like
the Luxi family of fonts at 10 points. I don't know what DPI my monitor is
at though, but I am running 1680x1050.

Aaron W. Hsu

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[BLUG] New Years Countdown timer

This is what I just posted to the climagic account on twitter and
identi.ca:

while V=$((`date +%s -d"2010-01-01"`-`date +%s`));do if [ $V == 0 ];then figlet 'Happy New Year!';break;else figlet $V;sleep 1;clear;fi;done

Of course I was limited to 140 characters. Anyways, I thought some
people here might appreciate this little snippet.

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Re: [BLUG] test

Ahh cool. Party on! Happy New Year!

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 05:40:28PM GMT, Shei, Shing-Shong [shei@cs.indiana.edu] said the following:
> Because we were doing some system maintenance and the mail server's
> sendmail was turned off for a while. :-) Happy New Year!
>
> > Sorry, just testing the list, it was slow earlier (1 hour delay) and I
> > was wondering why.
> >
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Re: [BLUG] test

Because we were doing some system maintenance and the mail server's
sendmail was turned off for a while. :-) Happy New Year!

> Sorry, just testing the list, it was slow earlier (1 hour delay) and I
> was wondering why.
>
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[BLUG] test

Sorry, just testing the list, it was slow earlier (1 hour delay) and I
was wondering why.

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Re: [BLUG] What size terminal do you use?

> What size terminal do you use?
>
I use Konsole at 80x51 with Dejavu Sans Mono 10pt, with antialiasing on. I use
vim for most editing, and set it to wrap at 78 characters. Occasionally I
will make it wider if I am doing something which has ugly wrapping or
truncating, like looking at top with full command listings, or looking at
mysql output.
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[BLUG] What size terminal do you use?

Quick poll. If you use some specific size for your terminal (xterm,
aterm, gnome-terminal, konsole, etc.), what size do you use and why?
Also, curious about what terminal you use specifically these days.

Myself, I usually use a terminal that is 160x60, which is way
oversized and sometimes presents problems on smaller screens like a
laptop screen or when I want to use a bigger font. But I like the
space and I often have lists of whatever data on my screen that I need
to compare. I've thought about making 160x50 my standard though
recently. I use konsole now, and gnome-terminal before that. Prior to
that I used aterm for a long time because of its speed.

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