BLUG: 09/01/08

Monday, September 1, 2008

RE: [BLUG] N00b (Web-based OS)

There is a web-based OS called eyeOS.

http://www.linux.com/feature/118113

Not sure it that is what you want or not. I’ve not tried it, yet.

Dirk

From: Matt Zink [mailto:matthewzin@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 10:33 AM
To: Bloomington LINUX Users Group
Subject: Re: [BLUG] N00b

here is a random, long shot suggestion: are there any Linux web-based OS's? If so, is there any interest in that? Does anyone have any familiarity? I haven't even Googled it to see if there is such a beast, but it could be an interesting topic if there is.
Matt

Re: [BLUG] Amarok

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:47 AM, jim marple <jimmarple@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Steve Beckley wrote:
>> I'm running Linux Mint at the moment and loving it. The one problem
>> that I can't fix is that when I try to start Amarok, it logs me out. I
>> get the initial Amarok load screen and then I get a black screen, then
>> a black screen with lines of code, then the GNOME login screen.
>> Synaptic says my installed version is 2:1.4.9.1-0ubuntu3+medibuntu1. I
>> can't really seem to find any information about it on either Ubuntu or
>> Linux Mint forums. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> -Steve B.
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> Steve long time mint user and my suggestion would be to get rid of
> amarok. Your in gnome and its a kde application try looking at exaile.
> There are alot of plugins for it too. I fought with it for a year or so
> and gave up. or try the kde edition of mint 5 its pretty good.
Sounds like a bug that should be filed, though. Amarok 1.4.x works
fine under GNOME in Fedora 9 -- it used to be my music setup, until
Banshee 1.2 came out.

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Re: [BLUG] Amarok

Steve Beckley wrote:
> Mark Warner wrote:
> Steve Beckley wrote:
>
> If I add another linux distro, do I need to add another swap
> partition or will the other distro recognize and use it?
>
> If you install another distro, the installer's partitioner should
> detect your existing swap and set it up automagically. It's not
> necessary to create multiple swaps.
>
> So it detects it, and both still use the swap space?

Prezackerly.

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Re: [BLUG] Amarok

Matthew Patenaude wrote:

> Question: If you install another Linux on your hard drive, how do you
> make enough partitions? /home obviously can be used by whatever distro
> is on there, so you don't need more that one /home, but are you still
> limited by the <4 primary partitions? Do you have to set up logical
> partitions to manage the different Linuxes you have installed? I prefer
> to have several primary partitions, but have never needed more than /,
> /home, and /swap. That's three already, so suppose you like to set up /
> , /usr, /home, /swap, and you want another Linux with its own /, and
> /usr, making a total of six partitions?

Four primaries are the limit, one of which can be extended with any
number of logicals within. The GParted Live CD is indispensable for
partition work, IMO.

As an example, here is my layout (notice that all logicals begin with
#5, regardless of the extended partition they're in):

sda/160G

sda1 windows
sda2 swap
sda3 extended
sda5 boot
sda6 mepis root
sda7 backups

sdb/500G

sdb1 swap
sdb2 extended
sdb5 ubuntu
sdb6 etch
sdb7 pclos
sdb8 suse11
sdb9 /home
sdb10 archives
sdb11 fat32

I back up my /home from sdb to sda; covers me on hardware failure.

And one of the "play" installs I've got is going to get blown out for
the MEPIS 8 beta series.

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Re: [BLUG] Amarok

So it detects it, and both still use the swap space?

-Steve B.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Mark Warner <markwarner1954@att.net> wrote:

Steve Beckley wrote:

I've tried A LOT of distros. I liked Mepis a lot, but I liked a few others better. My favorites were Mandriva and Fedora but I couldn't get the sound to work (and yes I did try the obvious and turn the volume up on everything I could find).
Another question:

If I add another linux distro, do I need to add another swap partition or will the other distro recognize and use it?

Hmmm... Mandriva is KDE and Fedora is Gnome... but they're both RPM distros. Me, I'm sold on debs. I'll make an exception for PCLinuxOS, but only because it uses apt/Synaptic.

If you install another distro, the installer's partitioner should detect your existing swap and set it up automagically. It's not necessary to create multiple swaps.

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Re: [BLUG] Amarok

I like deb systems as well. I have used others: Suse, Fedora, but ever since I started using Ubuntu and other deb based derivs, I have been reluctant to go back.

Question: If you install another Linux on your hard drive, how do you make enough partitions? /home obviously can be used by whatever distro is on there, so you don't need more that one /home, but are you still limited by the <4 primary partitions? Do you have to set up logical partitions to manage the different Linuxes you have installed? I prefer to have several primary partitions, but have never needed more than /, /home, and /swap. That's three already, so suppose you like to set up / , /usr, /home, /swap, and you want another Linux with its own /, and /usr, making a total of six partitions?

Thanks,
Matthew

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Mark Warner <markwarner1954@att.net> wrote:

Steve Beckley wrote:

I've tried A LOT of distros. I liked Mepis a lot, but I liked a few others better. My favorites were Mandriva and Fedora but I couldn't get the sound to work (and yes I did try the obvious and turn the volume up on everything I could find).
Another question:

If I add another linux distro, do I need to add another swap partition or will the other distro recognize and use it?

Hmmm... Mandriva is KDE and Fedora is Gnome... but they're both RPM distros. Me, I'm sold on debs. I'll make an exception for PCLinuxOS, but only because it uses apt/Synaptic.

If you install another distro, the installer's partitioner should detect your existing swap and set it up automagically. It's not necessary to create multiple swaps.

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Re: [BLUG] Amarok

Steve Beckley wrote:
> I've tried A LOT of distros. I liked Mepis a lot, but I liked a few
> others better. My favorites were Mandriva and Fedora but I couldn't get
> the sound to work (and yes I did try the obvious and turn the volume up
> on everything I could find).
>
> Another question:
>
> If I add another linux distro, do I need to add another swap partition
> or will the other distro recognize and use it?

Hmmm... Mandriva is KDE and Fedora is Gnome... but they're both RPM
distros. Me, I'm sold on debs. I'll make an exception for PCLinuxOS, but
only because it uses apt/Synaptic.

If you install another distro, the installer's partitioner should detect
your existing swap and set it up automagically. It's not necessary to
create multiple swaps.

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SimplyMEPIS Linux v6.5
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Re: [BLUG] Amarok

I've tried A LOT of distros. I liked Mepis a lot, but I liked a few others better. My favorites were Mandriva and Fedora but I couldn't get the sound to work (and yes I did try the obvious and turn the volume up on everything I could find).

Another question:

If I add another linux distro, do I need to add another swap partition or will the other distro recognize and use it?

-Steve B.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Mark Warner <markwarner1954@att.net> wrote:

Greetings, Steve. I'm relatively new to this whole Linux thing myself.

Interested in trying something different? Me, I'm a KDE fan, and have found MEPIS to be the best out there as far as stability, usability for newcomers, and hardware detection. It's built on top of Debian stable, with a custom kernel and an implementation of KDE that's just plain sweet. Amarok just works. As does most everything else.

MEPIS v7 is the latest current version, but v8 is in development and will probably be released in a couple months. The developer takes his time -- he's from the school that believes it's best to release *when* *it's* *ready*.

Steve Beckley wrote:

Thanks for the advice. I'm using exaile at the moment. It does what I need it to do, but it doesn't look as pretty. I read on the bug fix page for Amarok that they want to fix the bug for the stable release of Amarok 2.0. I don't know why Amarok is such an epic fail on Mint. I used it on Ubuntu just fine. Also, did you have the problem where the font for the GNOME login fields for your username, password, and options fields (sessions, system, etc.) were huge?

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Re: [BLUG] Amarok

Steve Beckley wrote:
> Thanks for the advice. I'm using exaile at the moment. It does what I
> need it to do, but it doesn't look as pretty. I read on the bug fix
> page for Amarok that they want to fix the bug for the stable release
> of Amarok 2.0. I don't know why Amarok is such an epic fail on Mint. I
> used it on Ubuntu just fine. Also, did you have the problem where the
> font for the GNOME login fields for your username, password, and
> options fields (sessions, system, etc.) were huge?
>
> -Steve B.
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:47 AM, jim marple > > wrote:
>
> Steve Beckley wrote:
> > I'm running Linux Mint at the moment and loving it. The one problem
> > that I can't fix is that when I try to start Amarok, it logs me
> out. I
> > get the initial Amarok load screen and then I get a black
> screen, then
> > a black screen with lines of code, then the GNOME login screen.
> > Synaptic says my installed version is
> 2:1.4.9.1-0ubuntu3+medibuntu1. I
> > can't really seem to find any information about it on either
> Ubuntu or
> > Linux Mint forums. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > -Steve B.
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > BLUG mailing list
> > BLUG@linuxfan.com
> > http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
> >
> Steve long time mint user and my suggestion would be to get rid of
> amarok. Your in gnome and its a kde application try looking at exaile.
> There are alot of plugins for it too. I fought with it for a year
> or so
> and gave up. or try the kde edition of mint 5 its pretty good.
>
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YES i had that i am useing a Eeepc 701 4g so it was big deal but it went
away with mint 5 that was a cassandra issue i thought.

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[BLUG] WoW and Wine

Just wanted to give an update. Believe it or not but I've played
World of Warcraft under Wine on Ubuntu Linux for a little over a month
now (probably played about 50 hours) and I think its only crashed once.
There also aren't any noticeable differences between running it under
Windows or running it under Linux. All the sound and graphics seem to
work ok. Its very impressive how well it works.

The only thing I haven't been able to do is I wanted to try running
this 3rd party application that uploads your data to a wiki-like site
(wowhead.com), but that wouldn't run properly under Wine.

Anyone else on the list play WoW, either under Windows or through
Wine? My character is Deltaray and he is on the Oxynia realm.

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Re: [BLUG] Amarok

Greetings, Steve. I'm relatively new to this whole Linux thing myself.

Interested in trying something different? Me, I'm a KDE fan, and have
found MEPIS to be the best out there as far as stability, usability for
newcomers, and hardware detection. It's built on top of Debian stable,
with a custom kernel and an implementation of KDE that's just plain
sweet. Amarok just works. As does most everything else.

MEPIS v7 is the latest current version, but v8 is in development and
will probably be released in a couple months. The developer takes his
time -- he's from the school that believes it's best to release *when*
*it's* *ready*.

--
Mark Warner
SimplyMEPIS Linux v6.5
Registered Linux User #415318

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Re: [BLUG] Amarok

Thanks for the advice. I'm using exaile at the moment. It does what I need it to do, but it doesn't look as pretty. I read on the bug fix page for Amarok that they want to fix the bug for the stable release of Amarok 2.0. I don't know why Amarok is such an epic fail on Mint. I used it on Ubuntu just fine. Also, did you have the problem where the font for the GNOME login fields for your username, password, and options fields (sessions, system, etc.) were huge?

-Steve B.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:47 AM, jim marple <jimmarple@hotmail.com> wrote:

Steve Beckley wrote:
> I'm running Linux Mint at the moment and loving it. The one problem
> that I can't fix is that when I try to start Amarok, it logs me out. I
> get the initial Amarok load screen and then I get a black screen, then
> a black screen with lines of code, then the GNOME login screen.
> Synaptic says my installed version is 2:1.4.9.1-0ubuntu3+medibuntu1. I
> can't really seem to find any information about it on either Ubuntu or
> Linux Mint forums. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> -Steve B.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> BLUG mailing list
> BLUG@linuxfan.com
> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
>
Steve long time mint user and my suggestion would be to get rid of
amarok. Your in gnome and its a kde application try looking at exaile.
There are alot of plugins for it too. I fought with it for a year or so
and gave up. or try the kde edition of mint 5 its pretty good.

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Re: [BLUG] Amarok

Steve Beckley wrote:
> I'm running Linux Mint at the moment and loving it. The one problem
> that I can't fix is that when I try to start Amarok, it logs me out. I
> get the initial Amarok load screen and then I get a black screen, then
> a black screen with lines of code, then the GNOME login screen.
> Synaptic says my installed version is 2:1.4.9.1-0ubuntu3+medibuntu1. I
> can't really seem to find any information about it on either Ubuntu or
> Linux Mint forums. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> -Steve B.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> BLUG mailing list
> BLUG@linuxfan.com
> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
>
Steve long time mint user and my suggestion would be to get rid of
amarok. Your in gnome and its a kde application try looking at exaile.
There are alot of plugins for it too. I fought with it for a year or so
and gave up. or try the kde edition of mint 5 its pretty good.

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[BLUG] Amarok

I'm running Linux Mint at the moment and loving it. The one problem that I can't fix is that when I try to start Amarok, it logs me out. I get the initial Amarok load screen and then I get a black screen, then a black screen with lines of code, then the GNOME login screen. Synaptic says my installed version is 2:1.4.9.1-0ubuntu3+medibuntu1. I can't really seem to find any information about it on either Ubuntu or Linux Mint forums. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-Steve B.

Re: [BLUG] N00b

Welcome, Steve! Well, as of now the meeting will still be at the Library on the second Tuesday of the month.

Thing is, I don't have a presentation lined up, and I'm super busy right now, so I'm not sure what we'll be talking about. Does anybody have a presentation already lined up that they'd like to give, or maybe a couple of people have mini-presentations?

Dave Cooley dcooley@kiva.net

Steve Beckley wrote:

Hello everyone. I just started using Linux again and wanted to know when the next BLUG meeting is. I saw in an earlier e-mail that the date might get changed.

-Steve B.
 
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