Friday, October 29, 2010

[BLUG] The sort of email conversation that I like.

I'm doing NaNoWriMo this year. <http://www.nanowrimo.org/>.

There's a new type of writing application designed to help you manage
a novel growing and changing in different places as well as allow easy
major restructuring. It is designed for the earlier stages of a book,
and when it is time to finalize the formatting it is expected that the
compiled output is read by an office or formatting application.

There's a popular Mac OS X writing application in this genre called
"Scrivener" <http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.html> It's a
commercial application with a lot of polish. It may be a commercial
app, but it leverages open standards when possible. All the data is
stored in XML and RTF. (The Open Document Foundation doesn't currently
have a format that cleanly maps to this sort of document set.)

They're releasing a beta of their upcoming Windows edition for
NaNoWriMo. Prior to this they were exclusively Mac OS X.

I sent them an email asking them to consider supporting Linux by way
of WINE. I'm including that email, plus their immediate response and a
recent follow-up.

I got such a kick out of the response that I felt I should share it. I
have to say that this sort of corporate attitude is one that I'm happy
to support with money.

Cheers,
Steven Black

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Steven Black <yam655@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:07 PM
Subject: Have you considered supporting Linux?
To: support@literatureandlatte.com


I know, you're thinking "Linux? We're still getting the Windows
version ready!" but it isn't as bad as all that.

All I'm really asking is that it cooperate with WINE, the Windows
Emulator. <http://www.winehq.org/> That is, it would be using the
exact same Windows binaries.

The problem? While WINE works really well there may be places where
the use of an unsupported (or poorly documented) function (or an
incompletely implemented function) will cause something to break.

Would this really be a viable solution to putting out a Linux version?
Well, it works well enough that WINE is used by Google Chrome, among
others. You wouldn't be the first to say, "We're not putting out a
Linux-native version -- but we'll fully support the use of WINE."

Would this require someone on your team to actually use Linux?
Actually, WINE also runs on Mac OS X.
<http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/Installing> (No supported DMG package
at this time -- but it is included in Mac Ports and Fink.)

I'm not saying this should interrupt your current development cycle.
-- Make the upcoming releases awesome. -- I'm just saying that before
NaNoWriMo 2011 with a minimal amount of work you could go from
supporting just Mac OS X and Windows to supporting all three of the
major operating systems.

Cheers,
Steven Black


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ioa Petra'ka <support@literatureandlatte.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: Have you considered supporting Linux?
To: Steven Black <yam655@gmail.com>


Steven,

Yes, we have! It won't be any time soon, mind you, but myself and the
Windows developer both use Linux, so it's something we have thought
about. Main focus for now is to get the Windows and Mac versions as
solid as possible, gauging the support impact that Windows will have,
and then once everything stabilises, considering a Linux move. The
nice thing about it is that the Windows version is written in QT. So,
as you can imagine, a Linux "port" would actually be extremely easy.
It's mostly a matter of priority focus and support minimalisation that
keeps us from doing a full cross-platform spread at the moment.

Thanks for the interest though. We've been hearing a lot of feedback
on people that would be interesting in a Linux version. I think it
would be great in conjunction with a low-impact netbook distro.

--
Ioa Petra'ka
Scrivener - Outline. Edit. Storyboard. Write.
http://www.literatureandlatte.com/

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ioa Petra'ka <ioa@literatureandlatte.com>
Date: Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Have you considered supporting Linux?
To: Steven Black <yam655@gmail.com>


Good news, Steven, we've decided to release a totally unsupported, but
native Linux binary. It won't be anything fancy. No .deb files or
anything like that. We just can't afford to spend resources on it
right now, but so many people were interested in getting it working
through WINE that we decided we might as well just put out something
there for people to play with and use. Check our Windows forum for
more information later tonight.

--
Ioa Petra'ka
Scrivener - Outline. Edit. Storyboard. Write.
http://www.literatureandlatte.com/
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Thursday, October 28, 2010

Re: [BLUG] How cheap can you build a box?

This might be a viable option

http://computersight.com/hardware/alternative-100-dollar-computer-available/

On Oct 28, 2010 12:24 PM, "Mark Warner" <mhwarner@gmail.com> wrote:
> David Ernst wrote:
>>
>> Although we wouldn't want used equipment either...
>
> Why not? You can buy pallets of old P-IIIs for next to nothing on eBay.
>
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Re: [BLUG] How cheap can you build a box?

David Ernst wrote:
>
> Although we wouldn't want used equipment either...

Why not? You can buy pallets of old P-IIIs for next to nothing on eBay.

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Re: [BLUG] How cheap can you build a box?

David Ernst wrote:
> Another option is an iPad, or preferably a iPad-like Android device,
> which seem to be "soon but not quite yet". Thoughts on those?

K-mart has Android tablets for $179.99 [1] I've heard mixed reviews
about that particular tablet but it's a much better price point than the
iPad.

[1]
http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_020W023705190001P?prdNo=3&blockNo=3&blockType=G3
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Re: [BLUG] How cheap can you build a box?

You might also check out mini-ITX motherboards and related systems. I
built a computer over 5 years ago with one of these mother boards for
~$300 in a Gentoo Cafe Press lunchbox.

http://www.mini-box.com/

-Chris Colvard


On 10/27/2010 03:00 PM, Mark Krenz wrote:
> Perhaps a Beagle Board would be an option:
>
> http://beagleboard.org/
>
> I think its a bit more than $200 to build a whole system with a holding
> case. But they are small and good for what you described.
>
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 06:33:40PM GMT, David Ernst [david.ernst@davidernst.net] said the following:
>> General question, only tangentially linux related:
>>
>> I was talking with a colleague about the possibility of building a
>> dedicated appliance for a certain application. They'd need to deploy
>> a number of them, so they'd like them to be inexpensive. It would use
>> a touch screen monitor, not necessarily have any networking, and not
>> need impressive computing power. I thought "my netbook could do it",
>> but then I thought, my netbook has all kind of things that we don't
>> need, like fold-up portability, a webcam, etc. And we definitely
>> wouldn't need the latest-greatest processor speed either. Although we
>> wouldn't want used equipment either...
>>
>> So, the question basically comes down to: what's the cheapest system
>> you could buy/build that would
>>
>> * run linux
>> * attach to a monitor
>> * have usb ports
>>
>> We really wouldn't need a Hard Drive, a 16G SD card would be fine.
>>
>> The simple, easy solution would be to get something like this:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ETP1602C-BK-X0163-Touch-Screen-Desktop/dp/B002VY8OS8
>>
>> so, if we can't significantly beat $380, there's no use. And that's
>> including the touchscreen monitor, which will be at least $100, so
>> with no monitor it's gotta be down well below $300, preferably below
>> $200. But, couldn't you get a motherboard, a not-super-fast CPU, some
>> kind of a case, and a USB Interface for less than that? Thoughts?
>>
>> Another option is an iPad, or preferably a iPad-like Android device,
>> which seem to be "soon but not quite yet". Thoughts on those?
>>
>> David
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Wednesday, October 27, 2010

Re: [BLUG] How cheap can you build a box?

Perhaps a Beagle Board would be an option:

http://beagleboard.org/

I think its a bit more than $200 to build a whole system with a holding
case. But they are small and good for what you described.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 06:33:40PM GMT, David Ernst [david.ernst@davidernst.net] said the following:
> General question, only tangentially linux related:
>
> I was talking with a colleague about the possibility of building a
> dedicated appliance for a certain application. They'd need to deploy
> a number of them, so they'd like them to be inexpensive. It would use
> a touch screen monitor, not necessarily have any networking, and not
> need impressive computing power. I thought "my netbook could do it",
> but then I thought, my netbook has all kind of things that we don't
> need, like fold-up portability, a webcam, etc. And we definitely
> wouldn't need the latest-greatest processor speed either. Although we
> wouldn't want used equipment either...
>
> So, the question basically comes down to: what's the cheapest system
> you could buy/build that would
>
> * run linux
> * attach to a monitor
> * have usb ports
>
> We really wouldn't need a Hard Drive, a 16G SD card would be fine.
>
> The simple, easy solution would be to get something like this:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ETP1602C-BK-X0163-Touch-Screen-Desktop/dp/B002VY8OS8
>
> so, if we can't significantly beat $380, there's no use. And that's
> including the touchscreen monitor, which will be at least $100, so
> with no monitor it's gotta be down well below $300, preferably below
> $200. But, couldn't you get a motherboard, a not-super-fast CPU, some
> kind of a case, and a USB Interface for less than that? Thoughts?
>
> Another option is an iPad, or preferably a iPad-like Android device,
> which seem to be "soon but not quite yet". Thoughts on those?
>
> David
> _______________________________________________
> BLUG mailing list
> BLUG@linuxfan.com
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[BLUG] How cheap can you build a box?

General question, only tangentially linux related:

I was talking with a colleague about the possibility of building a
dedicated appliance for a certain application. They'd need to deploy
a number of them, so they'd like them to be inexpensive. It would use
a touch screen monitor, not necessarily have any networking, and not
need impressive computing power. I thought "my netbook could do it",
but then I thought, my netbook has all kind of things that we don't
need, like fold-up portability, a webcam, etc. And we definitely
wouldn't need the latest-greatest processor speed either. Although we
wouldn't want used equipment either...

So, the question basically comes down to: what's the cheapest system
you could buy/build that would

* run linux
* attach to a monitor
* have usb ports

We really wouldn't need a Hard Drive, a 16G SD card would be fine.

The simple, easy solution would be to get something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ETP1602C-BK-X0163-Touch-Screen-Desktop/dp/B002VY8OS8

so, if we can't significantly beat $380, there's no use. And that's
including the touchscreen monitor, which will be at least $100, so
with no monitor it's gotta be down well below $300, preferably below
$200. But, couldn't you get a motherboard, a not-super-fast CPU, some
kind of a case, and a USB Interface for less than that? Thoughts?

Another option is an iPad, or preferably a iPad-like Android device,
which seem to be "soon but not quite yet". Thoughts on those?

David
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Monday, October 18, 2010

[BLUG] Ubuntu 10.10 release party! 7PM Saturday Oct 23

The latest version of Ubuntu, version 19.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was
released on Sunday, October 10, 2010. In celebration of Maverick's
release, the Indiana Ubuntu Local Community team is holding a release
party at the Claddagh Irish Pub at 3835 E. 96th Street on the Northside
of Indianapolis starting at 7:00 PM on Saturday, October 23, 2010.

Please RSVP at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianaTeam/MaverickReleaseParty
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Friday, October 15, 2010

[BLUG] Cannot suspend Dell Inspiron Ubuntu 10.10

I installed 10.10 on my Dell when it was released and had been having
no problems with suspending. Closing the lid or choosing suspend from
the menu worked. Starting yesterday, though, suspend no longer works.
If I close the lid or choose suspend from the menu, the screen goes
black and the computer locks. It also seem like it is using near 100%
of the cpu (although I can't test since the system is frozen), because
the fan turns on full speed and the laptop gets warm the longer I
leave it in this state. Googling brought up this bug report:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/522998 but I'm
not sure that it is related to my problem. If anyone has any ideas
(or other tests I can run to help troubleshoot) I would appreciate it!

Ben
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Thursday, October 7, 2010

[BLUG] Linux counter

There is a new effort to count the number of Linux users. I know I
know there was already counter.li.org. But this one might get more
momentum since the old counter has been kind of forgotten.

http://www.dudalibre.com/gnulinuxcounter?lang=en

Make sure you take a moment to get yourself counted.


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