Tuesday, May 3, 2011

Re: [BLUG] Att dsl

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Simón Ruiz <simon.a.ruiz@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't endorse DD-WRT over OpenWRT or Tomato. I've used them all, and
> they all do what we need done. I've never needed anything from them
> besides what's available from the basic web config menus.

My only complaint with DD-WRT on my old Buffalo router was the slow
performance on wireless when transferring large files. That never
happened with the stock Buffalo firmware.

I ended up replacing it with an HP AP420, which I think is now
discontinued but can be found cheap online. It doesn't have 802.11n,
but its 802.11g is plenty fast for my needs.

Kevin

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Re: [BLUG] Att dsl

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Steven Black <yam655@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been using OpenWRT <https://openwrt.org/>, though, and I've been a
> little lax on installing updates. I should either check out the features of
> the latest version, or I should try another product.
*snip*
> It looks like DD-WRT is completely web-based?
>
> I can't find any list of reasons why I would use DD-WRT in preference to
> another Linux-based product. Does anyone know of such a list?
*snip*

It is meant to configured via http, just like the original WRT54GL
(you have to install it over http, for example, using the original
WRT54GL's firmware update page). However, through the web-based
interface you can activate an SSH (and/or telnet, if you're into that
sort of thing...) server.

I don't endorse DD-WRT over OpenWRT or Tomato. I've used them all, and
they all do what we need done. I've never needed anything from them
besides what's available from the basic web config menus.

If you have specific needs, though, one might be better than another.
For example, I think there's a DD-WRT build that acts as a VoIP
server.

Just some thoughts.

Simón

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Re: [BLUG] Att dsl

On Monday 02 May 2011 2:59:54 PM Kelly McEvilly wrote:
> I like that idea. I had a h*ll of a time config'ing iptables on a dual
> ssid dd-wrt wrt54g and could really use the practice!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Krenz" <mark@slugbug.org>
> To: "Bloomington LINUX Users Group" <blug@cs.indiana.edu>
> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 10:04:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [BLUG] Att dsl
>
> On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 11:32:44AM GMT, Kelly McEvilly [kellym@wbhcp.com]
said the following:
> > Sadly, I have the same crappy Westell modem from Smithville at home.
> > Soon, they are gonna cut a trench across my yard and run fiber to my
> > house and I'm hoping I'll get a serious upgrade in equipment from them
> > when that happens.
>
> Since this is the Linux Users Group, I would suggest that when you get
> fiber to the house that you change your router to a Linux router setup
> on a low end PC. You should still pick reliable parts, but you can find
> some old Pentium 3 or 4 for $50 that you could slap an extra network
> card in and be fine. It will be much more reliable and flexible. You
> can even use one of the free router/firewall distributions such as
> SmoothWall, pfSense, Endian, etc. There are a ton of them. The only
> thing is that it'd use more power than one of the home broadband
> routers.
>
> Smithville basically just gives you an ethernet jack hooked up to
> their fiber-ethernet adapter, which you don't have to mess with.


thanks for all the feedback guys.

I am currently running pfsense 2.0 rc1 and it is actually looking like the
reason I can't get bridge mode working on my router is a bug currently in
pfsense.

cheers
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Re: [BLUG] Att dsl

The only problem I have with my WRT54GL is the older hardware (and thus only supporting the slower wireless speeds).

I've been using OpenWRT <https://openwrt.org/>, though, and I've been a little lax on installing updates. I should either check out the features of the latest version, or I should try another product.

OpenWRT was once based upon Debian, though it has evolved in to something unique. I picked it long ago now and at this point for reasons I can no longer remember. I do like configuring it completely through an SSH session and using the same firewall product on my router as I use for the rest of my systems. (I am a fan of Shorewall.)

It looks like DD-WRT is completely web-based?

I can't find any list of reasons why I would use DD-WRT in preference to another Linux-based product. Does anyone know of such a list?

Is DD-WRT purely prepackaged or does it have a package management system?

I like package management systems. Had I ever been a fan of RPM-based distros, I may be more fond of letting someone else making all my package choices, but being from a DEB-based background, I like to have choices.

It looks like there are a number of derivatives to OpenWRT at this point, too. I'm not sure if that's a good sign or a bad sign, though.

Cheers,
Steven Black

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Kelly McEvilly <kellym@wbhcp.com> wrote:

I like that idea.  I had a h*ll of a time config'ing iptables on a dual ssid dd-wrt wrt54g and could really use the practice!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Krenz" <mark@slugbug.org>
To: "Bloomington LINUX Users Group" <blug@cs.indiana.edu>
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 10:04:08 AM
Subject: Re: [BLUG] Att dsl

On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 11:32:44AM GMT, Kelly McEvilly [kellym@wbhcp.com] said the following:
>
> Sadly, I have the same crappy Westell modem from Smithville at home. Soon, they are gonna cut a trench across my yard and run fiber to my house and I'm hoping I'll get a serious upgrade in equipment from them when that happens.

 Since this is the Linux Users Group, I would suggest that when you get
fiber to the house that you change your router to a Linux router setup
on a low end PC. You should still pick reliable parts, but you can find
some old Pentium 3 or 4 for $50 that you could slap an extra network
card in and be fine. It will be much more reliable and flexible.  You
can even use one of the free router/firewall distributions such as
SmoothWall, pfSense, Endian, etc. There are a ton of them. The only
thing is that it'd use more power than one of the home broadband
routers.

  Smithville basically just gives you an ethernet jack hooked up to
their fiber-ethernet adapter, which you don't have to mess with.

--
Mark Krenz
Bloomington Linux Users Group
http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
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