Sunday, August 12, 2007

[BLUG] Re: BLUG digest, Vol 1 #687 - 7 msgs

Mark Krenz wrote:
> Ok, so what brands are people swearing by these days?
>
> I've used WD, Maxtor, Seagate, Hitachi and IBM over the past 10
> years, although the last two very little. I've just found WD to be
> much more realiable. I'm always regretting it when I choose a
> different brand.
The last three hard drives I bought were Western Digital, Seagate, and
Seagate, in that order. All are still running strong. Almost
everything I've heard about Maxtor has been bad, but they were bought
out by Seagate a couple years ago (as you probably know) so it's
possible their quality will change (or has changed already). For what
it's worth, if I buy a new drive in the near future it will probably be
a Seagate.

-Evan

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Re: [BLUG] Trying something new

Ok, I think with 15K drives you have to mount them specially. I
remember when Seagate released the first 15K drives years ago, they
released a whitepaper about how to mount them properly and it would
reduce the heat of the drives by something like 10 degrees. I bet you
could still get that information on their site.

From what I remember reading they had a best practice kind of thing
for mounting the drive to the case so that it would transfer the heat
and vibration to the case in an efficient way.

On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 05:15:07PM GMT, adam [docpeppernuwer@yahoo.com] said the following:
>
> I've certainly had the least luck with WD drives
> (five fails before three years) in PC uses and swear
> by scsi as well. I'm pretty hard on drives and used
> to get them worryingly hot routinely until I started
> putting a little thermal paste on the sides when
> mounting them in a permanent home. It may just be
> superstition but it keeps even my 15K cheetah cool
> during hard swap times w/o the use of a specific hard
> drive fan. :D
>
>
>
> --- Simón Ruiz <simon.a.ruiz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 8/11/07, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
> > > Its almost like clockwork on a server that good
> > drives only last 5
> > > years. Its also a wear thing not a time thing.
> > I've been able to boot
> > > up old Macs with IDE drives from the 80s 15 years
> > later after they were
> > > built so its not bit rot that is doing it.
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [BLUG] Trying something new

Yes, I think heat is doing in most of my drives that are failing. Of course,
you might hope that a laptop could take a little heat.
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Re: [BLUG] Trying something new

I've certainly had the least luck with WD drives
(five fails before three years) in PC uses and swear
by scsi as well. I'm pretty hard on drives and used
to get them worryingly hot routinely until I started
putting a little thermal paste on the sides when
mounting them in a permanent home. It may just be
superstition but it keeps even my 15K cheetah cool
during hard swap times w/o the use of a specific hard
drive fan. :D

--- Simón Ruiz <simon.a.ruiz@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8/11/07, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
> > Its almost like clockwork on a server that good
> drives only last 5
> > years. Its also a wear thing not a time thing.
> I've been able to boot
> > up old Macs with IDE drives from the 80s 15 years
> later after they were
> > built so its not bit rot that is doing it.
>


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Re: [BLUG] Trying something new

On 8/11/07, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
> Its almost like clockwork on a server that good drives only last 5
> years. Its also a wear thing not a time thing. I've been able to boot
> up old Macs with IDE drives from the 80s 15 years later after they were
> built so its not bit rot that is doing it.

<knocking on wood>I have, personally, never had a hard disk
fail.</knocking on wood>

Only floppy disks.

Though, at my new job, we're going through renovations. They (the
contractors) decided we (the Technology Department) had to move our
office/server room into the new area because they were demolishing the
old area.

It rained. In our new office. On our production servers.

"Oh," they said, "well, we'll fix that."

It rained again. They hadn't "fixed that". I'm told the damage is
worse (I was in Kansas for a funeral when it struck, my boss called to
tell me not to bother coming in on Friday).

Power has been shut off to that whole area of the building since
Thursday. Total Technology Blackout. Monday morning we go in to find
out what can be salvaged.

I can pretty much guarantee I'll see rare and exotic breeds of
equipment failure I'd never even dreamed of.

This job is proving to be interesting.

Greetings from the Northern Fort.

Simón

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