Re: [BLUG] DVD

Steve Beckley wrote:
> Yes
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Mark Warner <markwarner1954@att.net
> <mailto:markwarner1954@att.net>> wrote:
>
> Is 'libdvdcss2' installed?
>
> Steve Beckley wrote:
>
> gxine freezes when you click play, and mplayer doesn't work.
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Steve Beckley
> <harthacnut@gmail.com <mailto:harthacnut@gmail.com>
> <mailto:harthacnut@gmail.com <mailto:harthacnut@gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
>
> I had no luck with any of those.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Shing-Shong Shei
> <shei@cs.indiana.edu <mailto:shei@cs.indiana.edu>
> <mailto:shei@cs.indiana.edu <mailto:shei@cs.indiana.edu>>> wrote:
>
> We have pretty good success using mplayer/gmplayer or
> xine/gxine. Both
> are pretty good. --Bruce
>
> > I recently bought a Dell with Ubuntu on it, and I
> tried to watch a
> > DVD, only to find that no matter what player or DVD
> I tried, I
> > couldn't get any sound. The sound from other sources
> (internet, mp3s,
> > etc.) worked. The default DVD program is LinDVD.
>
>
>
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I use totem which uses xine as a backend if i want the dvd menu's,
otherwise i just use VLC you might try one of them. They are both in
repo's i think if not they are in mediabuntu.

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Re: [BLUG] DVD

Yes

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Mark Warner <markwarner1954@att.net> wrote:

Is 'libdvdcss2' installed?

Steve Beckley wrote:

gxine freezes when you click play, and mplayer doesn't work.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Steve Beckley <harthacnut@gmail.com <mailto:harthacnut@gmail.com>> wrote:

   I had no luck with any of those.


   On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Shing-Shong Shei

   <shei@cs.indiana.edu <mailto:shei@cs.indiana.edu>> wrote:

       We have pretty good success using mplayer/gmplayer or
       xine/gxine.  Both
       are pretty good.  --Bruce

       >  I recently bought a Dell with Ubuntu on it, and I tried to watch a
       >  DVD, only to find that no matter what player or DVD I tried, I
       >  couldn't get any sound.  The sound from other sources
       (internet, mp3s,
       >  etc.) worked.  The default DVD program is LinDVD.

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Re: [BLUG] DVD

Nevermind.  I just restarted my computer and the sound magically worked.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Steve Beckley <harthacnut@gmail.com> wrote:

gxine freezes when you click play, and mplayer doesn't work.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Steve Beckley <harthacnut@gmail.com> wrote:

I had no luck with any of those.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Shing-Shong Shei <shei@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:

We have pretty good success using mplayer/gmplayer or xine/gxine.  Both
are pretty good.  --Bruce

> I recently bought a Dell with Ubuntu on it, and I tried to watch a
> DVD, only to find that no matter what player or DVD I tried, I
> couldn't get any sound.  The sound from other sources (internet, mp3s,
> etc.) worked.  The default DVD program is LinDVD.
>

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Re: [BLUG] DVD

Is 'libdvdcss2' installed?

Steve Beckley wrote:
> gxine freezes when you click play, and mplayer doesn't work.
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Steve Beckley <harthacnut@gmail.com
> <mailto:harthacnut@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I had no luck with any of those.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Shing-Shong Shei
> <shei@cs.indiana.edu <mailto:shei@cs.indiana.edu>> wrote:
>
> We have pretty good success using mplayer/gmplayer or
> xine/gxine. Both
> are pretty good. --Bruce
>
> > I recently bought a Dell with Ubuntu on it, and I tried to watch a
> > DVD, only to find that no matter what player or DVD I tried, I
> > couldn't get any sound. The sound from other sources
> (internet, mp3s,
> > etc.) worked. The default DVD program is LinDVD.

--
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Re: [BLUG] DVD

Hmm... this is strange. We have been using maplyer and xine for years.
We built RPM of our own at first. Now we use the RPM from rpmforge.
Worked pretty well either way.
> gxine freezes when you click play, and mplayer doesn't work.
>
> I had no luck with any of those.
>

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Re: [BLUG] DVD

gxine freezes when you click play, and mplayer doesn't work.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Steve Beckley <harthacnut@gmail.com> wrote:

I had no luck with any of those.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Shing-Shong Shei <shei@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:

We have pretty good success using mplayer/gmplayer or xine/gxine.  Both
are pretty good.  --Bruce

> I recently bought a Dell with Ubuntu on it, and I tried to watch a
> DVD, only to find that no matter what player or DVD I tried, I
> couldn't get any sound.  The sound from other sources (internet, mp3s,
> etc.) worked.  The default DVD program is LinDVD.
>

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Re: [BLUG] DVD

I had no luck with any of those.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Shing-Shong Shei <shei@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:

We have pretty good success using mplayer/gmplayer or xine/gxine.  Both
are pretty good.  --Bruce

> I recently bought a Dell with Ubuntu on it, and I tried to watch a
> DVD, only to find that no matter what player or DVD I tried, I
> couldn't get any sound.  The sound from other sources (internet, mp3s,
> etc.) worked.  The default DVD program is LinDVD.
>

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Re: [BLUG] DVD

We have pretty good success using mplayer/gmplayer or xine/gxine. Both
are pretty good. --Bruce

> I recently bought a Dell with Ubuntu on it, and I tried to watch a
> DVD, only to find that no matter what player or DVD I tried, I
> couldn't get any sound. The sound from other sources (internet, mp3s,
> etc.) worked. The default DVD program is LinDVD.
>

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[BLUG] DVD

I recently bought a Dell with Ubuntu on it, and I tried to watch a DVD, only to find that no matter what player or DVD I tried, I couldn't get any sound.  The sound from other sources (internet, mp3s, etc.) worked.  The default DVD program is LinDVD.

-Steve B.

Re: [BLUG] Multiple Users

Security does have a long way to come. You are talking about the time
that ssh did not even exist and everybody used rsh/rcp and use 'xhost
+'. ;-)

> All things considering, it is amazing how open those machines were. As
> well as the "big" machines: lots of open ports, nothing encrypted
> (except the passwords themselves), no validity checking on smtp ports,
> etc...
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Re: [BLUG] Multiple Users

On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 14:40 -0400, Shei, Shing-Shong wrote:
> Ahh... now I know whom to blame. :-)
>

All things considering, it is amazing how open those machines were. As
well as the "big" machines: lots of open ports, nothing encrypted
(except the passwords themselves), no validity checking on smtp ports,
etc...

> > Heh, I don't need to imagine that. The orchard cluster in Lindley Hall
> > was great for that in the 90's. It was also fun to run "xv -root" and
> > put up inappropriate pictures as the root of their desktop, run many
> > copy of xeyes all over the screen, and fork bomb them when some noob was
> > using a sun so they could check their mail on the vms cluster...
> >
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Re: [BLUG] Multiple Users

Ahh... now I know whom to blame. :-)

> Heh, I don't need to imagine that. The orchard cluster in Lindley Hall
> was great for that in the 90's. It was also fun to run "xv -root" and
> put up inappropriate pictures as the root of their desktop, run many
> copy of xeyes all over the screen, and fork bomb them when some noob was
> using a sun so they could check their mail on the vms cluster...
>
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Re: [BLUG] Multiple Users

On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 14:30 -0400, Shei, Shing-Shong wrote:
> Some devices are set to be 'owned' by the current console user.
> Examples are sound device, video, keyboard, mouse, and CD/DVD driver,
> etc. Of course there is a way to change it. Imagine that somebody ssh
> into your workstation and start playing music on your sound card?

Heh, I don't need to imagine that. The orchard cluster in Lindley Hall
was great for that in the 90's. It was also fun to run "xv -root" and
put up inappropriate pictures as the root of their desktop, run many
copy of xeyes all over the screen, and fork bomb them when some noob was
using a sun so they could check their mail on the vms cluster...

> > What program was the audio coming from?
> >> Sound and desktops are kinda special. I was able to play sound from
> > the console and have it overlap with sound from X windows, but when I
> > tried to start a second gnome session it halted the sound from the
> > first one.
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Re: [BLUG] Multiple Users

Some devices are set to be 'owned' by the current console user.
Examples are sound device, video, keyboard, mouse, and CD/DVD driver,
etc. Of course there is a way to change it. Imagine that somebody ssh
into your workstation and start playing music on your sound card?
> What program was the audio coming from?
>
> Sound and desktops are kinda special. I was able to play sound from
> the console and have it overlap with sound from X windows, but when I
> tried to start a second gnome session it halted the sound from the
> first one.
>
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Re: [BLUG] Multiple Users

On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:17 +0000, Mark Krenz wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 05:55:19PM GMT, Brian Wheeler [bdwheele@indiana.edu] said the following:
> >
> > I did a fast user switch from gnome and while my audio did stop, all of
> > the other processes running doing network things continued as normal.
> >
>
> What program was the audio coming from?
>
> Sound and desktops are kinda special. I was able to play sound from
> the console and have it overlap with sound from X windows, but when I
> tried to start a second gnome session it halted the sound from the
> first one.
>

I'm on Fedora 9, running Amarok through PulseAudio. Amarok kept
running, but it muted its audio stream while I'm using the other user's
desktop. Which is kind of what you want anyway...

Brian

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Re: [BLUG] Multiple Users

On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 14:14 -0400, Barry Schatz wrote:
> I didn't notice the other replies in my inbox until after I sent mine.
> You can disregard my previous message.
>
> I've had my head in PuTTY all day, so I was thinking of what would
> happen to a job in an interrupted ssh session. My first thought was
> running a job in screen and forgetting to detach.

I don't think anything "big" happens to processes during fast user
switch. It looks like a new X server (on console 10, as display :1) is
started and processes using "console devices" such as Amarok are
disconnected from the actual output...i.e. Amarok got quiet but
continued to feed data to PulseAudio.

> I wanted to get more
> specifics before trying to help.

In his case, yeah, that's a good idea. I just didn't see the reason for
why the processes would need to stop if you didn't log out. Or just use
nohup if you _do_ need to log out :)

> The difference between theory and practice? In theory, there is no
> difference, but in practice there is.
>

:) obviously

> -Barry
>
> Brian Wheeler wrote:
> > I missed the beginning of this thread, so if I'm totally off base, then
> > ignore me.
> >
> > I did a fast user switch from gnome and while my audio did stop, all of
> > the other processes running doing network things continued as normal.
> >
> > Why would normal processes stop "in theory" when switching users?
> > That's what a multiuser system is for :)
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 13:48 -0400, Barry Schatz wrote:
> >
> >> In theory no, in practice maybe. how are you logged in for each user and
> >> how are you switching users?
> >>
> >> Steve Beckley wrote:
> >>
> >>> If I have something downloading as one user, if I switch users without
> >>> logging out will that data continue to download on the other user account?
> >>>
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Re: [BLUG] Multiple Users

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 05:55:19PM GMT, Brian Wheeler [bdwheele@indiana.edu] said the following:
>
> I did a fast user switch from gnome and while my audio did stop, all of
> the other processes running doing network things continued as normal.
>

What program was the audio coming from?

Sound and desktops are kinda special. I was able to play sound from
the console and have it overlap with sound from X windows, but when I
tried to start a second gnome session it halted the sound from the
first one.

--
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Re: [BLUG] Multiple Users

I didn't notice the other replies in my inbox until after I sent mine.
You can disregard my previous message.

I've had my head in PuTTY all day, so I was thinking of what would
happen to a job in an interrupted ssh session. My first thought was
running a job in screen and forgetting to detach. I wanted to get more
specifics before trying to help.

The difference between theory and practice? In theory, there is no
difference, but in practice there is.

-Barry

Brian Wheeler wrote:
> I missed the beginning of this thread, so if I'm totally off base, then
> ignore me.
>
> I did a fast user switch from gnome and while my audio did stop, all of
> the other processes running doing network things continued as normal.
>
> Why would normal processes stop "in theory" when switching users?
> That's what a multiuser system is for :)
>
> Brian
>
> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 13:48 -0400, Barry Schatz wrote:
>
>> In theory no, in practice maybe. how are you logged in for each user and
>> how are you switching users?
>>
>> Steve Beckley wrote:
>>
>>> If I have something downloading as one user, if I switch users without
>>> logging out will that data continue to download on the other user account?
>>>
>>> -Steve B.
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Re: [BLUG] Multiple Users

I missed the beginning of this thread, so if I'm totally off base, then
ignore me.

I did a fast user switch from gnome and while my audio did stop, all of
the other processes running doing network things continued as normal.

Why would normal processes stop "in theory" when switching users?
That's what a multiuser system is for :)

Brian

On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 13:48 -0400, Barry Schatz wrote:
> In theory no, in practice maybe. how are you logged in for each user and
> how are you switching users?
>
> Steve Beckley wrote:
> > If I have something downloading as one user, if I switch users without
> > logging out will that data continue to download on the other user account?
> >
> > -Steve B.
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Re: [BLUG] Multiple Users

In theory no, in practice maybe. how are you logged in for each user and
how are you switching users?

Steve Beckley wrote:
> If I have something downloading as one user, if I switch users without
> logging out will that data continue to download on the other user account?
>
> -Steve B.
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