Re: [BLUG] Trying something new

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Joe Auty wrote:
> Matt Standish wrote:
>
>>> what you stand for or question it. In the end, I'm for what works best,
>>> not what I believe in.
>>>
>>>
>> My thoughts exactly. Well... Concerning pperating systems anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Well, I've been thinking it might be best to stop peeing while standing
> up, as it is a lot messier this way. I believe in peeing while standing
> up, but I can't say it works better this way.
>
> Am I the only one that has struggled with coming to grasps with such
> thoughts?
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [BLUG] Update Hauppauge Video Capture

On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 08:09:34PM -0400, Joe Auty wrote:
> Have you thought about booting up off of a KnoppMyth CD, just to see
> what this OS will do as far as detecting and setting up your card for you?
>
> http://www.mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html

I double-checked the init sequence and noticed that video0 was the
MPEG encoder. It also said video32 was the YUV encoder. This seems a
little odd to me, but if this is true then video0 may *only* support
MPEG streaming. (I'm used to the two encodings being supported
on the same device, however I know the devices have considerable
flexibility.)

I would think that xawtv would support MPEG drivers, but if it
doesn't... A Myth-based product would definitely have MPEG streaming
support, so that may work with video0.

However, you may try xawtv with the /dev/video32 device, just to check.
If that is really the device for the YUV device, then this may work
with xawtv.

Cheers,
Steven Black

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RE: [BLUG] Trying something new

Mark Warner wrote:
> Steven Black wrote:
>> It is finally getting to a point where Linux is more user-focused
>> than Windows. It more easily does what a user wants to do. Microsoft
>> is so focused on doing what the corporate world wants that they're
>> ignoring the end user.
>
> Recently set up my 82 year old dad with an 700 MHz-PIII/384MB beater
> running PCLinuxOS. He's doing well with it. This replaced an eight
> year old 350Hz/64MB W98 box that was no fun for him to use any more,
> what with all the necessary anti-virus and anti-spyware apps sucking
> up resources, and the constant necessary Windows maintenance.

*puts on flame retardant suit*

*looks around at the Vista desktop and the Vista laptop and...*

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Re: [BLUG] Trying something new

Steven Black wrote:
>
> It is finally getting to a point where Linux is more user-focused than
> Windows. It more easily does what a user wants to do. Microsoft is so
> focused on doing what the corporate world wants that they're ignoring
> the end user.

Recently set up my 82 year old dad with an 700 MHz-PIII/384MB beater
running PCLinuxOS. He's doing well with it. This replaced an eight year
old 350Hz/64MB W98 box that was no fun for him to use any more, what
with all the necessary anti-virus and anti-spyware apps sucking up
resources, and the constant necessary Windows maintenance.

He took to Firefox, Thunderbird, and OO Writer with no difficulty, after
being accustomed to IE, OE, and Word Perfect. And the PCLOS
implementation of KDE is enough like Windows that he feels comfortable
when he ventures further.

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Re: [BLUG] Trying something new

On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 08:58:25PM +0000, Mark Krenz wrote:
> Anyways, its not often that I'm in Windows and so I have to stay in
> Windows for a few hours and work on other things. I forgot that its not
> all bad.

This reminds me, I have family that is quite easy to get along with...
during two hour intervals once a year. Any more than that, and it gets
hard to deal with.

It is surprising what you can put up with during small isolated occasions.

My 14 year old niece finally got tired of the frustrations of Windows
and asked me to install Linux. She has a few isolated programs that we
have not yet verified will run under Wine, so she is set to dual-boot
for now.

I set her up to be the administrator of her laptop, as it is safer to
be the administrator of your own Ubuntu machine than it is to be the
administrator of your Windows machine.

She is delighted with the games available, and pleased to know that the
product I recommended for her Ipod will allow her to copy MP3s
from her friends' Ipods.

It is finally getting to a point where Linux is more user-focused than
Windows. It more easily does what a user wants to do. Microsoft is so
focused on doing what the corporate world wants that they're ignoring
the end user.

Cheers,
Steven Black

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Re: [BLUG] Trying something new

>> what you stand for or question it. In the end, I'm for what works best,
>> not what I believe in.
>
>My thoughts exactly. Well... Concerning pperating systems anyway.

True... But, I also like being part of a competitive movement. In
the years before OS X came out it really seemed like Windows was the
ONLY kid on the block, and that just ain't right. That's about when I
started using Linux on my Desktop, even though in many ways Windows
was undeniably easier to use at the time. Having a large Linux
community encourages development, and Linux is much better now than it
was then. Ironically, so is Windows, and I do think this owes
something to a fear of Linux at MS. Throw OS X into the mix, and
we've got much healthier competition, even if the numbers haven't
shifted that much. In short, all three of these major OS types are
much better now than they were ten years ago, and in part that's
because they don't want to be obsoleted by the others.

So, yes to what works, especially in production environments. But
there's a lot to be said for diversity anyway.

David

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Re: [BLUG] Trying something new

Scott Blaydes wrote:
> Joe Auty wrote:
>> Matt Standish wrote:
>>>> what you stand for or question it. In the end, I'm for what works best,
>>>> not what I believe in.
>>>>
>>> My thoughts exactly. Well... Concerning pperating systems anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well, I've been thinking it might be best to stop peeing while standing
>> up, as it is a lot messier this way. I believe in peeing while standing
>> up, but I can't say it works better this way.
>>
>> Am I the only one that has struggled with coming to grasps with such
>> thoughts?
>>
>
> The 2 prince alberts I have do make it a bit rough some times. Thank
> goodness the where the apadravia was healed
>
> Thank you,
> Scott Blaydes

Wow, that is even hard for me to parse and I wrote it. Scott's word of
wisdom for today: do not compose email while talking on the cell fone.

Thank you,
Scott Blaydes
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[BLUG] Looking for network support for small company

I work for a small local manufacturing company (40 employees, 15 seat
network) that is looking to upgrade its internal network.

Current setup is an antique NetWare4 file and application server. I'm
told the enterprise software provider does have a Linux version
available. That is the only networked application used -- no internal
mail or CRM or anything of that nature. Website and email are hosted
elsewhere. Current network support provider no longer supports Novell,
and is pushing us to go with Windows.

We have no IT department or formal IT guy -- I'm it by default. I
support and maintain all the desktops, but am ignorant about networking,
and have no desire to learn about an antiquated system. The server
itself is is outfitted with old, small SCSI drives, and my research
tells me that NetWare uses a proprietary file system that can't be read
by other OSs.

The powers-that-be are willing to consider a FOSS alternative (they've
been listening to me sing Linux' praises, and have been impressed by my
demos of desktop installs), but need to be assured that support can be
had. I'm envisioning a very basic Debian/Ubuntu setup with enough of a
GUI as to make it possible for me to perform routine maintenance, and
having a network support provider available if/when the need arises.

So, do any of you guys know where I should go next? Do any of you
provide this kind of service? With a track record and references?

I hope this isn't inappropriate for this list. Off-list responses to
mhwarner@insightbb.com will be appreciated.

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Re: [BLUG] Trying something new

Joe Auty wrote:
> Matt Standish wrote:
>>> what you stand for or question it. In the end, I'm for what works best,
>>> not what I believe in.
>>>
>> My thoughts exactly. Well... Concerning pperating systems anyway.
>>
>>
>
>
> Well, I've been thinking it might be best to stop peeing while standing
> up, as it is a lot messier this way. I believe in peeing while standing
> up, but I can't say it works better this way.
>
> Am I the only one that has struggled with coming to grasps with such
> thoughts?
>

The 2 prince alberts I have do make it a bit rough some times. Thank
goodness the where the apadravia was healed

Thank you,
Scott Blaydes
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Re: [BLUG] Update Hauppauge Video Capture

On Sunday 05 August 2007 8:09:34 pm Joe Auty wrote:
> Hey Peter,
>
> Have you thought about booting up off of a KnoppMyth CD, just to see
> what this OS will do as far as detecting and setting up your card for you?
>
> http://www.mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html
>
>
> If it works this way, you should be able to copy the config, no?
>
> Peter G. Brown wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I verified the card works (installed windows XP). Played video in VHS and
> > displayed. Played camcorder cassette (attached s-video and video input
> > (yellow connector) displays (no sound).
> >
> > So good enough in windows (to get started).
> >
> >
> > Using xawtv and the video (video signalling come in tuner 1) test -
> > nothing. Changing inputs - no good.
> >
> > For my first foray in linux multimedia I am not doing very well.
> >
> > Finding the manual for my Panasonic palmcorder Mini DV does not provide
> > any helpers and I am beginning to wonder if the s-video is any good.
> >
> > I have an iDV port, a s-video in/out, A/V IN/OUT which goes into the
> > video/audio video connectors on the vhs.
> >
> > xawtv -hwscan gives:
> >
> > This is xawtv-3.95.dfsg.1, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.20-16-generic)
> > looking for available devices
> > port 60-60
> > type : Xvideo, image scaler
> > name : SIS 300/315/330 series Video Overlay
> >
> > port 61-76
> > type : Xvideo, image scaler
> > name : SIS 315/330 series Video Blitter
> >
> > /dev/video0: OK [ -device /dev/video0 ]
> > type : v4l2
> > name : Hauppauge WinTV PV
> > flags: capture tuner
> >
> > I start up xawtv with the video cassette running (tuner is set to Tuner
> > 1), play around with the settings - no success. The default (per man) is
> > /dev/video0 so why no display?
> >
> > Any helpers - appreciated.
> > Thank you,
> > Peter Brown
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something else worth looking into, and sorry i don't have the address right
off, is linux mce.
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