[BLUG] OT: Need a database tutor

I've been ordered to come up with a quick and dirty way to control
incoming and outgoing inventory components at my workplace. All I need
to do is keep track of the quantities on hand of about 100 item numbers.
This information would be saved as a database file in a network share
folder. MS Office on Windows is the environment.

IT is not my job description, but I'm nonetheless stuck with this task.
I will be the one setting this up and maintaining it; others will need
to access it only to see the quantities on hand.

My problem is I don't know squat about Access (or OO.o Base), and gave
myself an anxiety attack today trying to stumble my way through setting
this up, to no avail. No one else in this outfit knows Access, either.
I'm an OS guy and a hardware guy, not an applications guy. I need
someone to spend an evening or two with me getting me started and
pointed in the right direction. I'm a bright guy and a quick study, but
I'm totally flummoxed by this.

Reply-To: address is good. Name your price, and I'll see if they'll go
for it. If I have to (and can afford it) I'll pay for it myself.

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[BLUG] Software Development Opportunity - Bloomington

   Greetings Linux Savants,

Next Wave Systems LLC (my day job)  is looking for software engineers/computer scientists to join our team in Bloomington, as well as our facility in Pekin IN (NW of New Albany/Louisville KY). The text of our  job announcement is:

"Next Wave Systems, LLC (www.nextwavesys.com) seeks to hire engineers and computer programmers in Bloomington, IN and Pekin, IN with experience in Linux-based design and software development. Windows experience desired. Languages: C or C++ or Java, shell scripting, interaction with UNIX system calls, network fundamentals, familiarity with SVN. Experience with Mapping applications and willingness to interact with hardware devices a plus.

Minimum requirements: U.S. citizen with BSEE, BSME or BS in Computer Science with 3 years experience developing software. Some travel, US Citizenship required.

Please send résumé to: jobs@nextwavesys.com. Compensation package commensurate with qualifications and experience. Next Wave is an Equal Opportunity Employer."

Next Wave does have a good compensation plan (salary & benefits) and challenging work. If you are interested and have questions, please email or call me. 

regards to all,

Art


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Re: [BLUG] Ubuntu 7.10 as domU in Xen

Actually that's a very good suggestion and one I had not thought about. My
current attempts were with the server ISO. I'll give it a try with the desktop
ISO and see what happens.

Thanks!!

David

Quoting Steven Black <blacks@indiana.edu>:

> This may seem like an odd question, but...
>
> Which Ubuntu ISO are you using?
>
> There are three main ones:
> * Ubuntu Desktop
> * Ubuntu Alternate
> * Ubuntu Server

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Re: [BLUG] Ubuntu 7.10 as domU in Xen

This may seem like an odd question, but...

Which Ubuntu ISO are you using?

There are three main ones:
* Ubuntu Desktop
* Ubuntu Alternate
* Ubuntu Server

Ubuntu Desktop is the only one of the three that has a "Live CD" mode
and an X-based installation. The Alternate and Server CDs use a
descendant of the text-based installation process that Debian's been
using for 10+ years.

I have no experience with Xen. I do have experience with Ubuntu, though.

With 7.10 they've added improved support for virtualization. This will
get better with 8.04, as this is an area they're actively working on
improving.

If you've been trying this with the Desktop ISO, then I suggest you
stop and try another ISO. I know the Server ISO has a different set
of default kernel options, you may want to try that next. (For those
familiar with Ubuntu, it uses the 'linux-server' package instead of
the 'linux-generic' package.) I thought the Alternate ISO had a
kernel with different kernel options as well, but I may be mistaken.

If you've been trying this with the Server ISO, then to mix it up,
I suggest you try it with the Alternate ISO.

An additional note: Regardless of the ISO chosen, you get access to
all the same packages once the system is up and online. They use a
common package repository, depending on the ISO some packages are
not available on the CD. The Server ISO does not include X on the
CD. The Alternate ISO includes both GNOME and KDE on the CD. (And
the Kubuntu ISO includes KDE and not GNOME on the CD.)

I hope this helps.

Cheers,
Steven Black

On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 02:05:40AM -0700, davmoo@gibbousmoon.com wrote:
> [My apologies if everyone gets two copies of this...on the first send I used the
> wrong email address and not the one I have subscribed to the list. Mr or Ms
> Moderator, feel free to delete that one unsent if you'd like.]
>
> And lo, another long-time lurker uncloaks in order to ask a question...
>
> I've got Xen running on Dell server with RHEL5.1. I've got several
> CentOS and Mandriva virtual machines running, so I know Xen itself is
> working fine. For a client who has a preference for Ubuntu, I'm now
> trying to create a virtual machine running 7.10 (since I'm not an
> Ubuntu person I can't remember for sure, but I think that's a Gutsy
> Gibbon). When I start up the VM for the install, it hangs at
> "Loading...", and then dies on that third dot.
>
> Is there some special trick to installing Ubuntu as a domU?
>
> Oh, since this can be important to know, I probably should mention
> that this server is not sitting on my desk. I do not have local
> access to the hardware. Its some 600 miles away. Everything must be
> done remotely, or else the first step for gaining local access is "buy
> an airplane ticket". This is probably a good thing, since it keeps me
> from attacking the server with a hammer ;-)
>
> I've asked this in several Ubuntu specific forums. So before anyone
> answers here, and pardon me for sounding like a flaming asshole, but
> here are the questions I do NOT need answered that everyone in those
> forums insisted on answering instead of dealing with my actual
> question. I'm not trying to install Ubuntu as dom0. I'm not trying
> to install RHEL5 as dom0 or domU. I'm not having a problem installing
> Xen on RHEL5.1, I've already got it working. I know the difference
> between para-virtualized and fully virtualized...my current VMs are
> fully virtualized, and that's what I was going for with an Ubuntu VM.
> I know my Ubuntu ISO is not corrupt. Again, I apologize for sounding
> like an ass, but I don't need those questions answered or topics dealt
> with.
>
> And for lack of a better idea on how to refresh the memory of the one
> person who has met me once in person, Mark, I'm the dude who bought
> the CRT monitors from you a while back and met you in the Best Buy
> parking lot in the black convertible.
>
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Re: [BLUG] Ubuntu 7.10 as domU in Xen

My main use for Xen is to give a few clients who need it full and complete
control over their servers, but at the same time not enough control to actually
hose the server itself or have access to areas that aren't theirs. Putting them
each in a VM makes a very effective way to more fully utilize the actual
hardware (none of them use more than 5 or 10 percent of a server) and at the
same time safely limit them to their own sandbox.

Over the last 6 months I think I've played with most every Linux virtualization
package there is...VMware, VirtualBox, Xen, OpenVZ (Virtuozzo), etc. And with
the exception of Xen, they either didn't play nice with RHEL5 (VMware) or had
limitations that affected things I wanted to do (VirtualBox and OpenVZ). Only
Xen installed without a hitch and does everything I need, with the possible
exception of running Ubuntu as domU, but I consider that more of a Ubuntu fault
than a Xen fault.

I wanted to attend the meeting where (I think it was) you talked about
virtualization, but Tuesdays just never seem to work out good for me for a
meeting night. I had also wanted to make the recent event at your offices, but,
and I'm a bit embarrassed to admit this, I forgot about it until the next day
even though I had a PostIt note stuck to my computer about it. We'll consider
that a "senior moment". Oh well, I'll cross my fingers for February.

David

Quoting Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org>:

>
> Hey David,
>
> Are you trying to install Ubuntu as a dom0? Is your iso image perhaps
> corrupt? Hehe, just kidding. I know just how annoying it is when
> clueless people in forums and IRC channels ask those kinds of questions
> just to ask them. What's worse is that they make it look like your
> question has been answered when it really hasn't.
>
> Its interesting that this isn't working in full virtualization mode.
> I thought you could run unmodified OSes in full virt. I don't use full
> virt myself, but I've also had a problem getting para virt Ubuntu images
> to work. There is something about the kernel that Ubuntu uses that
> makes it different from other distributions. I've had the same problem
> with Fedora. From the research I did, I got the impression that there
> are people working on making Ubuntu more Xen friendly, so you might have
> to just wait until then. I know I probably will have to.
>
> Where is your Ubuntu domU failing? I think mine was having a kernel
> panic when it tried to mount the root filesystem read only on boot or
> somewhere around there. I'd have to load it up again to see.
>
> I'm actually happy to see someone else on the list using Xen in this
> way. I'll have someone to confer with.
>
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[BLUG] Ubuntu 7.10 as domU in Xen

[My apologies if everyone gets two copies of this...on the first send I used the
wrong email address and not the one I have subscribed to the list. Mr or Ms
Moderator, feel free to delete that one unsent if you'd like.]

And lo, another long-time lurker uncloaks in order to ask a question...

I've got Xen running on Dell server with RHEL5.1. I've got several
CentOS and Mandriva virtual machines running, so I know Xen itself is
working fine. For a client who has a preference for Ubuntu, I'm now
trying to create a virtual machine running 7.10 (since I'm not an
Ubuntu person I can't remember for sure, but I think that's a Gutsy
Gibbon). When I start up the VM for the install, it hangs at
"Loading...", and then dies on that third dot.

Is there some special trick to installing Ubuntu as a domU?

Oh, since this can be important to know, I probably should mention
that this server is not sitting on my desk. I do not have local
access to the hardware. Its some 600 miles away. Everything must be
done remotely, or else the first step for gaining local access is "buy
an airplane ticket". This is probably a good thing, since it keeps me
from attacking the server with a hammer ;-)

I've asked this in several Ubuntu specific forums. So before anyone
answers here, and pardon me for sounding like a flaming asshole, but
here are the questions I do NOT need answered that everyone in those
forums insisted on answering instead of dealing with my actual
question. I'm not trying to install Ubuntu as dom0. I'm not trying
to install RHEL5 as dom0 or domU. I'm not having a problem installing
Xen on RHEL5.1, I've already got it working. I know the difference
between para-virtualized and fully virtualized...my current VMs are
fully virtualized, and that's what I was going for with an Ubuntu VM.
I know my Ubuntu ISO is not corrupt. Again, I apologize for sounding
like an ass, but I don't need those questions answered or topics dealt
with.

And for lack of a better idea on how to refresh the memory of the one
person who has met me once in person, Mark, I'm the dude who bought
the CRT monitors from you a while back and met you in the Best Buy
parking lot in the black convertible.

David
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Re: [BLUG] Ubuntu 7.10 as domU in Xen

Hey David,

Are you trying to install Ubuntu as a dom0? Is your iso image perhaps
corrupt? Hehe, just kidding. I know just how annoying it is when
clueless people in forums and IRC channels ask those kinds of questions
just to ask them. What's worse is that they make it look like your
question has been answered when it really hasn't.

Its interesting that this isn't working in full virtualization mode.
I thought you could run unmodified OSes in full virt. I don't use full
virt myself, but I've also had a problem getting para virt Ubuntu images
to work. There is something about the kernel that Ubuntu uses that
makes it different from other distributions. I've had the same problem
with Fedora. From the research I did, I got the impression that there
are people working on making Ubuntu more Xen friendly, so you might have
to just wait until then. I know I probably will have to.

Where is your Ubuntu domU failing? I think mine was having a kernel
panic when it tried to mount the root filesystem read only on boot or
somewhere around there. I'd have to load it up again to see.

I'm actually happy to see someone else on the list using Xen in this
way. I'll have someone to confer with.

Mark

On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 09:05:40AM GMT, davmoo@gibbousmoon.com [davmoo@gibbousmoon.com] said the following:
> [My apologies if everyone gets two copies of this...on the first send I used the
> wrong email address and not the one I have subscribed to the list. Mr or Ms
> Moderator, feel free to delete that one unsent if you'd like.]
>
> And lo, another long-time lurker uncloaks in order to ask a question...
>
> I've got Xen running on Dell server with RHEL5.1. I've got several
> CentOS and Mandriva virtual machines running, so I know Xen itself is
> working fine. For a client who has a preference for Ubuntu, I'm now
> trying to create a virtual machine running 7.10 (since I'm not an
> Ubuntu person I can't remember for sure, but I think that's a Gutsy
> Gibbon). When I start up the VM for the install, it hangs at
> "Loading...", and then dies on that third dot.
>
> Is there some special trick to installing Ubuntu as a domU?
>
> Oh, since this can be important to know, I probably should mention
> that this server is not sitting on my desk. I do not have local
> access to the hardware. Its some 600 miles away. Everything must be
> done remotely, or else the first step for gaining local access is "buy
> an airplane ticket". This is probably a good thing, since it keeps me
> from attacking the server with a hammer ;-)
>
> I've asked this in several Ubuntu specific forums. So before anyone
> answers here, and pardon me for sounding like a flaming asshole, but
> here are the questions I do NOT need answered that everyone in those
> forums insisted on answering instead of dealing with my actual
> question. I'm not trying to install Ubuntu as dom0. I'm not trying
> to install RHEL5 as dom0 or domU. I'm not having a problem installing
> Xen on RHEL5.1, I've already got it working. I know the difference
> between para-virtualized and fully virtualized...my current VMs are
> fully virtualized, and that's what I was going for with an Ubuntu VM.
> I know my Ubuntu ISO is not corrupt. Again, I apologize for sounding
> like an ass, but I don't need those questions answered or topics dealt
> with.
>
> And for lack of a better idea on how to refresh the memory of the one
> person who has met me once in person, Mark, I'm the dude who bought
> the CRT monitors from you a while back and met you in the Best Buy
> parking lot in the black convertible.
>
> David
> davmoo@gibbousmoon.com
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Re: [BLUG] New Dell Ubuntu Laptop

And second surprise -- on the Thinkpad, everything works once you tell
the power management subsystem to unload USB modules before
suspending. Blah.

Incidentally, Lenovo is following Dell's footsteps and preloading
Linux on the T61 too -- or should I say, re-starting IBM's
Linux-on-Thinkpad initiative. Hopefully they'll do as good a job as
Dell does.

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On Jan 27, 2008 5:45 PM, Matthew Patenaude <mnglfiddle@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, now. Surprise! Suspend does in fact work, and works nicely too. :)
>
> Matthew Patenaude
>
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2008 9:49 PM, Matthew Patenaude <mnglfiddle@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 24, 2008 3:39 PM, Michel Salim <michel.sylvan@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Jan 24, 2008 1:58 PM, Matthew Patenaude <mnglfiddle@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'd be interested to know if the hardward all lasts. I have known too
> many
> > > > people whose Dell laptops haven't held up very long, so I have always
> been
> > > > to afraid to try one out. Other than that, I am glad they have given a
> nod
> > > > to Linux. I hope more follow suit. I do think the Thinkpad is a better
> bet
> > > > quality wise.
> > >
> > > Most of the problematic Dells have been Inspirons, if memory serves.
> > > The Latitudes, and the XPS, have tended to be better-constructed
> > > (though alas, the last really-attractive-looking Latitude design was
> > > from at least five year back).
> > >
> > > I thought exactly the same way you did when I bought my Thinkpad.
> > > There are several related bugs on Fedora's bugzilla documenting the
> > > 'bounce when suspending' problem -- really annoying. Though in
> > > fairness, a friend has similar problems on a Latitude 830/Ubuntu.
> > >
> > > Whenever Asus / Pixel Qi / whoever design a laptop from the grounds up
> > > to run Linux, I'd be really happy. Right now, it seems that Dell is
> > > the closest alternative..
> > >
> > > So, Matt, is suspend working for you?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Michel Salim
> > > http://hircus.jaiku.com/
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> >
> > Well, to be honest, I haven't needed to try it yet. I'll try it and let
> you know.
> >
> > Matthew
> >
>
>

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Re: [BLUG] New Dell Ubuntu Laptop

Well, now. Surprise! Suspend does in fact work, and works nicely too. :)

Matthew Patenaude

On Jan 24, 2008 9:49 PM, Matthew Patenaude <mnglfiddle@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 24, 2008 3:39 PM, Michel Salim <michel.sylvan@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 24, 2008 1:58 PM, Matthew Patenaude <mnglfiddle@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'd be interested to know if the hardward all lasts. I have known too many
> people whose Dell laptops haven't held up very long, so I have always been
> to afraid to try one out. Other than that, I am glad they have given a nod
> to Linux. I hope more follow suit. I do think the Thinkpad is a better bet
> quality wise.

Most of the problematic Dells have been Inspirons, if memory serves.
The Latitudes, and the XPS, have tended to be better-constructed
(though alas, the last really-attractive-looking Latitude design was
from at least five year back).

I thought exactly the same way you did when I bought my Thinkpad.
There are several related bugs on Fedora's bugzilla documenting the
'bounce when suspending' problem -- really annoying. Though in
fairness, a friend has similar problems on a Latitude 830/Ubuntu.

Whenever Asus / Pixel Qi / whoever design a laptop from the grounds up
to run Linux, I'd be really happy. Right now, it seems that Dell is
the closest alternative..

So, Matt, is suspend working for you?


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Well, to be honest, I haven't needed to try it yet. I'll try it and let you know.

Matthew

[BLUG] Job oppurunity with Suso

LINUX JOB OPPURTUNITY

Suso Technology Services is looking to hire part time system
administrators who are stable in Bloomington, comfortable learning
hi-tech skills and have a positive work attitude. We are a heavy user
and supporter of Linux, especially on servers. Prior professional
experience in these fields would be nice, but not necessary if you are a
good candidate.

If you feel that you are up for a challenge and would like to help
Bloomington's premiere web hosting company grow, I'd encourage you to
send your resume to us.

Please send your resume with cover letter in Open Office or Rich Text
Format to jobs@suso.org.

Thank you.

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Re: [BLUG] New Dell Ubuntu Laptop

On Jan 24, 2008 3:39 PM, Michel Salim <michel.sylvan@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 24, 2008 1:58 PM, Matthew Patenaude <mnglfiddle@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'd be interested to know if the hardward all lasts. I have known too many
> people whose Dell laptops haven't held up very long, so I have always been
> to afraid to try one out. Other than that, I am glad they have given a nod
> to Linux. I hope more follow suit. I do think the Thinkpad is a better bet
> quality wise.

Most of the problematic Dells have been Inspirons, if memory serves.
The Latitudes, and the XPS, have tended to be better-constructed
(though alas, the last really-attractive-looking Latitude design was
from at least five year back).

I thought exactly the same way you did when I bought my Thinkpad.
There are several related bugs on Fedora's bugzilla documenting the
'bounce when suspending' problem -- really annoying. Though in
fairness, a friend has similar problems on a Latitude 830/Ubuntu.

Whenever Asus / Pixel Qi / whoever design a laptop from the grounds up
to run Linux, I'd be really happy. Right now, it seems that Dell is
the closest alternative..

So, Matt, is suspend working for you?


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Well, to be honest, I haven't needed to try it yet. I'll try it and let you know.

Matthew

Re: [BLUG] New Dell Ubuntu Laptop

Apropos of nothing at all, I have been running Gentoo, Ubuntu, and
Fedora 6 (along with M$ XP) on a Dell Inspiron 6000 (shudder!) for a
couple of years now with no problems. Haven't upgraded to Ubuntu 7.10
yet, but will when I get around to it.

Ron

David Bell wrote:
> For all Macbook Air fans, Dell is releasing the XPS 1330n with Ubuntu in
> the U.S. starting in February. No pricing yet, but rock on, another
> Ubuntu laptop!
>
> http://www.mobilewhack.com/dell-xps-1330n-ubuntu-powered-laptop/
> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5605271273.html
>
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On Jan 24, 2008 1:58 PM, Matthew Patenaude <mnglfiddle@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'd be interested to know if the hardward all lasts. I have known too many
> people whose Dell laptops haven't held up very long, so I have always been
> to afraid to try one out. Other than that, I am glad they have given a nod
> to Linux. I hope more follow suit. I do think the Thinkpad is a better bet
> quality wise.

Most of the problematic Dells have been Inspirons, if memory serves.
The Latitudes, and the XPS, have tended to be better-constructed
(though alas, the last really-attractive-looking Latitude design was
from at least five year back).

I thought exactly the same way you did when I bought my Thinkpad.
There are several related bugs on Fedora's bugzilla documenting the
'bounce when suspending' problem -- really annoying. Though in
fairness, a friend has similar problems on a Latitude 830/Ubuntu.

Whenever Asus / Pixel Qi / whoever design a laptop from the grounds up
to run Linux, I'd be really happy. Right now, it seems that Dell is
the closest alternative..

So, Matt, is suspend working for you?

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Re: [BLUG] New Dell Ubuntu Laptop

On Jan 24, 2008 11:46 AM, Matt Standish <mstandish@gmail.com> wrote:

Well... I haven't tried that yet.  I'll let you know.

On Jan 24, 2008 11:09 AM, Michel Salim < michel.sylvan@gmail.com> wrote:

Suspend works out of the box too? Argh, I knew I should not have
bought the Thinkpad!

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On Jan 24, 2008 9:40 AM, Matt Standish < mstandish@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am running Ubuntu on a 1330 now.  All the hardware worked out of the box,
> including the cam.
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2008 8:57 AM, David Bell < dtbell99@gmail.com > wrote:
> > For all Macbook Air fans, Dell is releasing the XPS 1330n with Ubuntu
> > in the U.S. starting in February. No pricing yet, but rock on, another
> > Ubuntu laptop!
> >
> > http://www.mobilewhack.com/dell-xps-1330n-ubuntu-powered-laptop/
> > http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5605271273.html
> >
> > Dave Bell
> > dtbell99@gmail.com
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I'd be interested to know if the hardward all lasts. I have known too many people whose Dell laptops haven't held up very long, so I have always been to afraid to try one out. Other than that, I am glad they have given a nod to Linux. I hope more follow suit. I do think the Thinkpad is a better bet quality wise.

Not that mine is going to be any better. I am running Gutsy on a Gateway. Everything works now: that took several dist upgrades. I started with it brand new with 6.06 and kept going up. I didn't get sound until 7.04 and finally got broadcom wireless working with 7.10. So now everything works including the built in card reader, and I am pretty happy with it. But I don't know how these hold over the years.

Matthew

Re: [BLUG] New Dell Ubuntu Laptop

Well... I haven't tried that yet.  I'll let you know.

On Jan 24, 2008 11:09 AM, Michel Salim <michel.sylvan@gmail.com> wrote:

Suspend works out of the box too? Argh, I knew I should not have
bought the Thinkpad!

--
Michel

On Jan 24, 2008 9:40 AM, Matt Standish < mstandish@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am running Ubuntu on a 1330 now.  All the hardware worked out of the box,
> including the cam.
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2008 8:57 AM, David Bell < dtbell99@gmail.com > wrote:
> > For all Macbook Air fans, Dell is releasing the XPS 1330n with Ubuntu
> > in the U.S. starting in February. No pricing yet, but rock on, another
> > Ubuntu laptop!
> >
> > http://www.mobilewhack.com/dell-xps-1330n-ubuntu-powered-laptop/
> > http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5605271273.html
> >
> > Dave Bell
> > dtbell99@gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
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Re: [BLUG] New Dell Ubuntu Laptop

Suspend works out of the box too? Argh, I knew I should not have
bought the Thinkpad!

--
Michel

On Jan 24, 2008 9:40 AM, Matt Standish <mstandish@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am running Ubuntu on a 1330 now. All the hardware worked out of the box,
> including the cam.
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2008 8:57 AM, David Bell <dtbell99@gmail.com > wrote:
> > For all Macbook Air fans, Dell is releasing the XPS 1330n with Ubuntu
> > in the U.S. starting in February. No pricing yet, but rock on, another
> > Ubuntu laptop!
> >
> > http://www.mobilewhack.com/dell-xps-1330n-ubuntu-powered-laptop/
> > http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5605271273.html
> >
> > Dave Bell
> > dtbell99@gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > BLUG mailing list
> > BLUG@linuxfan.com
> > http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
> >
>
>
>
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> www.mattstandish.org
>

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Re: [BLUG] New Dell Ubuntu Laptop

I am running Ubuntu on a 1330 now.  All the hardware worked out of the box, including the cam.

On Jan 24, 2008 8:57 AM, David Bell <dtbell99@gmail.com > wrote:

For all Macbook Air fans, Dell is releasing the XPS 1330n with Ubuntu
in the U.S. starting in February. No pricing yet, but rock on, another
Ubuntu laptop!

http://www.mobilewhack.com/dell-xps-1330n-ubuntu-powered-laptop/
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5605271273.html

Dave Bell
dtbell99@gmail.com
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[BLUG] New Dell Ubuntu Laptop

For all Macbook Air fans, Dell is releasing the XPS 1330n with Ubuntu
in the U.S. starting in February. No pricing yet, but rock on, another
Ubuntu laptop!

http://www.mobilewhack.com/dell-xps-1330n-ubuntu-powered-laptop/
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5605271273.html

Dave Bell
dtbell99@gmail.com
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[BLUG] New Dell Ubuntu Laptop

For all Macbook Air fans, Dell is releasing the XPS 1330n with Ubuntu
in the U.S. starting in February. No pricing yet, but rock on, another
Ubuntu laptop!

http://www.mobilewhack.com/dell-xps-1330n-ubuntu-powered-laptop/
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5605271273.html

Dave Bell
dtbell99@gmail.com
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Re: [BLUG] Meeting time.

That's pretty cool. I don't know if anyone else wants to move the
meeting time, but you can vote on the issue here:

http://www.doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=yyskcits4i8k5hgt

(There's no significance to the week I chose; think of the options as
days (Monday, Tuesday) rather than dates (4 February, 5 February).)

Cheers,
Evan

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> Rich
>
> Nuwer, Adam Robert Drew wrote:
> | Perhaps it's time we made a little program (or found one) that would
> | accept all of our likely "good" meeting times and produce the time that
> | suits most people. I have a programming class/lab thursdays and would
> | like to join blug meetings as well. But reply-to-mailing-list emails
> | seem an awfully crude way of scheduling. There also may be other people
> | on the list who haven't spoken up who could benefit from a schedule
> | adjustment.
> | Anyway, it's just an idea (my coding skills are still too crude to
> | do this-I'm playing with Alice)
> | As to a new venue, i got nuthin...my place is too small for more
> | than seven ppl. :C
> |
> | -adam
> |
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Doodle is a simple app to do scheduling by vote. You might give that a try.

http://www.doodle.ch

Rich

Nuwer, Adam Robert Drew wrote:
| Perhaps it's time we made a little program (or found one) that would
| accept all of our likely "good" meeting times and produce the time that
| suits most people. I have a programming class/lab thursdays and would
| like to join blug meetings as well. But reply-to-mailing-list emails
| seem an awfully crude way of scheduling. There also may be other people
| on the list who haven't spoken up who could benefit from a schedule
| adjustment.
| Anyway, it's just an idea (my coding skills are still too crude to
| do this-I'm playing with Alice)
| As to a new venue, i got nuthin...my place is too small for more
| than seven ppl. :C
|
| -adam
|
| _______________________________________________
| BLUG mailing list
| BLUG@linuxfan.com
| http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug

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Re: [BLUG] New guy... When's the next meeting?

On Monday 21 January 2008 10:22:58 am Pawsitive Results wrote:
> While we're in the process of thinking through changing the meeting
> location from the library to somewhere a bit more flexible in terms of
> scheduling and ending times....are we also discussing changing which
> night we meet?
>
> I ask only because, yet again, I have my C++ class on Tuesday nights
> and thus cannot attend meetings until after the semester ends
> (assuming they don't then schedule me to teach agility on Tuesdays
> this summer.)
>
> My personal vote would be for 7:30 on a Thursday, at a collie-friendly
> location <G>.
>
> Off-topic note: Xen will have her American Kennel Club sanctioned
> agility debut the weekend of February 16-17, on the south side of
> Indianapolis. I've also entered her in a 3-day trial the following
> weekend (in Dayton), so there's a decent chance she'll be able to pick
> up her first two AKC titles next month.
>
> Ana
>
> On Jan 18, 2008 9:46 PM, Mitchell Lloyd <mitch.lloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm just wondering when the next meeting is so I can plan ahead a bit.
> > I was caught a bit off guard by the last email saying that the meeting
> > was last Thursday.
> >
> > Looking forward to check out the LUG!
> >
> > -Mitch
>
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i wanted to pitch for a friday. I currently work nights and would love to
attend more but the weekday meetings are rough for me.

cheers
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[BLUG] Meeting time.

Perhaps it's time we made a little program (or found one) that
would accept all of our likely "good" meeting times and produce the
time that suits most people. I have a programming class/lab thursdays
and would like to join blug meetings as well. But
reply-to-mailing-list emails seem an awfully crude way of scheduling.
There also may be other people on the list who haven't spoken up who
could benefit from a schedule adjustment.
Anyway, it's just an idea (my coding skills are still too crude to
do this-I'm playing with Alice)
As to a new venue, i got nuthin...my place is too small for more
than seven ppl. :C

-adam

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Re: [BLUG] New guy... When's the next meeting?

While we're in the process of thinking through changing the meeting
location from the library to somewhere a bit more flexible in terms of
scheduling and ending times....are we also discussing changing which
night we meet?

I ask only because, yet again, I have my C++ class on Tuesday nights
and thus cannot attend meetings until after the semester ends
(assuming they don't then schedule me to teach agility on Tuesdays
this summer.)

My personal vote would be for 7:30 on a Thursday, at a collie-friendly
location <G>.

Off-topic note: Xen will have her American Kennel Club sanctioned
agility debut the weekend of February 16-17, on the south side of
Indianapolis. I've also entered her in a 3-day trial the following
weekend (in Dayton), so there's a decent chance she'll be able to pick
up her first two AKC titles next month.

Ana

On Jan 18, 2008 9:46 PM, Mitchell Lloyd <mitch.lloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm just wondering when the next meeting is so I can plan ahead a bit.
> I was caught a bit off guard by the last email saying that the meeting
> was last Thursday.
>
> Looking forward to check out the LUG!
>
> -Mitch
>
>
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[BLUG] Nagios + Cacti, or just Zenoss?

I saw that people were talking about Nagios and Cacti.

I wanted to mention an alternative, Zenoss. Zenoss calls
itself a "third generation" monitoring tool. It was
designed from the ground up for this goal.

The website is: http://www.zenoss.com/

Features include (from http://www.zenoss.com/product/ ):
* Configuration Management DB (abbr. CMDB)
* Inventory and Change Tracking
* Availability Monitoring
* Performance Monitoring
* Event Management
* Core Reports

I mention this because I'm planning on migrating to Zenoss. It does
more than Nagios+Cacti. It is compatible with any custom Nagios plugins
you may be using. You can also check out the screen shots at
http://www.zenoss.com/product/screenshots -- you'll notice it also
looks great.

Cheers,
Steven Black

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Re: [BLUG] stupidity filter

Hey, that's pretty cool. It seems like a natural evolution of
Slashdot's "lameness filter".

Dave Cooley
dcooley@kiva.net

Joe Auty wrote:
> I would *love* something like this as a Firefox extension!
>
> http://stupidfilter.org/main/index.php?n=Main.FAQ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----------
> Joe Auty
> NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians
> http://www.netmusician.org
> joe@netmusician.org
>
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[BLUG] stupidity filter

I would *love* something like this as a Firefox extension!

http://stupidfilter.org/main/index.php?n=Main.FAQ

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[BLUG] New guy... When's the next meeting?

I'm just wondering when the next meeting is so I can plan ahead a bit.
I was caught a bit off guard by the last email saying that the meeting
was last Thursday.

Looking forward to check out the LUG!

-Mitch

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> 1. Get together tonight (Mark Krenz)
> 2. Re: Get together tonight (Steven Black)
> 3. Re: Get together tonight (Evan Boggs)
> 4. Re: Get together tonight (Dave Cooley)
> 5. Re: Get together tonight (Steven Black)
> 6. Great meeting tonight, some notes (Mark Krenz)
> 7. Re: Great meeting tonight, some notes (Dave Cooley)
> 8. RMS and Soulja Boy? (Matt Standish)
> 9. Re: Great meeting tonight, some notes (Paul Purdom)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:38:37 +0000
> From: Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org>
> To: blug@cs.indiana.edu
> Subject: [BLUG] Get together tonight
> Reply-To: blug@mailman.cs.indiana.edu
>
>
> I just wanted to remind everyone about the BLUG get together tonight
> at the Suso office in Fountain Square Mall at 6:30pm.
>
> --
> Mark Krenz
> Bloomington Linux Users Group
> http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:45:21 -0500
> From: Steven Black <blacks@indiana.edu>
> To: blug@cs.indiana.edu
> Subject: Re: [BLUG] Get together tonight
> Reply-To: blug@mailman.cs.indiana.edu
>
> I wish I could make it, but alas, it conflicts with a knitting class
> I'm taking with my wife.
>
> I hope everyone has fun!
>
> Cheers,
> Steven Black
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 06:38:37PM +0000, Mark Krenz wrote:
> >
> > I just wanted to remind everyone about the BLUG get together tonight
> > at the Suso office in Fountain Square Mall at 6:30pm.
> >
> > --
> > Mark Krenz
> > Bloomington Linux Users Group
> > http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
> > _______________________________________________
> > BLUG mailing list
> > BLUG@linuxfan.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:40:10 -0500
> From: Evan Boggs <etboggs@indiana.edu>
> To: blug@cs.indiana.edu
> Subject: Re: [BLUG] Get together tonight
> Reply-To: blug@mailman.cs.indiana.edu
>
> You're placing knitting above Linux? What has BLUG come to?
>
> Unlike Steven, I don't knit. I'll be there. ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Evan
>
>
> Quoting Steven Black <blacks@indiana.edu>:
>
> > I wish I could make it, but alas, it conflicts with a knitting class
> > I'm taking with my wife.
> >
> > I hope everyone has fun!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Steven Black
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 06:38:37PM +0000, Mark Krenz wrote:
> >>
> >> I just wanted to remind everyone about the BLUG get together tonight
> >> at the Suso office in Fountain Square Mall at 6:30pm.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark Krenz
> >> Bloomington Linux Users Group
> >> http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> BLUG mailing list
> >> BLUG@linuxfan.com
> >> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
> > _______________________________________________
> > BLUG mailing list
> > BLUG@linuxfan.com
> > http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
> >
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:27:12 -0500
> From: Dave Cooley <dcooley@kiva.net>
> To: blug@cs.indiana.edu
> Subject: Re: [BLUG] Get together tonight
> Reply-To: blug@mailman.cs.indiana.edu
>
> I should be there as well.
>
> Dave Cooley
> dcooley@kiva.net
>
>
>
> Evan Boggs wrote:
> > You're placing knitting above Linux? What has BLUG come to?
> >
> > Unlike Steven, I don't knit. I'll be there. ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Evan
> >
> >
> > Quoting Steven Black <blacks@indiana.edu>:
> >
> >> I wish I could make it, but alas, it conflicts with a knitting class
> >> I'm taking with my wife.
> >>
> >> I hope everyone has fun!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Steven Black
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 06:38:37PM +0000, Mark Krenz wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just wanted to remind everyone about the BLUG get together tonight
> >>> at the Suso office in Fountain Square Mall at 6:30pm.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Mark Krenz
> >>> Bloomington Linux Users Group
> >>> http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> BLUG mailing list
> >>> BLUG@linuxfan.com
> >>> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> BLUG mailing list
> >> BLUG@linuxfan.com
> >> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:21:25 -0500
> From: Steven Black <blacks@indiana.edu>
> To: blug@cs.indiana.edu
> Subject: Re: [BLUG] Get together tonight
> Reply-To: blug@mailman.cs.indiana.edu
>
> It isn't placing knitting above Linux, it is placing my wife
> above Linux. -- There's a big difference. :)
>
> I hope it went smoothly!
>
> Cheers,
> Steven
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 03:40:10PM -0500, Evan Boggs wrote:
> > You're placing knitting above Linux? What has BLUG come to?
> >
> > Unlike Steven, I don't knit. I'll be there. ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Evan
> >
> >
> > Quoting Steven Black <blacks@indiana.edu>:
> >
> > >I wish I could make it, but alas, it conflicts with a knitting class
> > >I'm taking with my wife.
> > >
> > >I hope everyone has fun!
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Steven Black
> > >
> > >On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 06:38:37PM +0000, Mark Krenz wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I just wanted to remind everyone about the BLUG get together tonight
> > >>at the Suso office in Fountain Square Mall at 6:30pm.
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Mark Krenz
> > >>Bloomington Linux Users Group
> > >>http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
> > >>_______________________________________________
> > >>BLUG mailing list
> > >>BLUG@linuxfan.com
> > >>http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
> > >_______________________________________________
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:53:39 +0000
> From: Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org>
> To: blug@cs.indiana.edu
> Subject: [BLUG] Great meeting tonight, some notes
> Reply-To: blug@mailman.cs.indiana.edu
>
>
> I think people like the meet n' greet format better than a
> presentation. It gave a lot of people a chance to talk to each other
> across the table about a variety of topics and socialize. 13 people
> showed up. It was cramped, but fun.
>
> I wanted to sent out the list of programs that I remember we talked
> about just in case someone wanted to look them up:
>
> Cacti (http://www.cacti.net)
> MRTG
> Nagios (http://www.nagios.org)
> Blender (http://www.blender.org/)
>

http://www.blenderartists.org/
>

http://wiki.blender.org/
>

http://www.elephantsdream.org/
>

http://www.blender-materials.org/
>

http://www.plumiferos.com/
>

http://suso.suso.org/xulu/Blender
>

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=deltaray3
> Yafray, POV-Ray, Wings3D and K3D
> GIMP
> Cluster SSH (cssh)
> Xen, system virtualization
> dd sparse images
> VMware workstation & ESX Server
> Amanda, backup software
> Bakula
> IRC and X-Chat
> Asterisk, PBX system
> Ekiga, soft phone
>
> Other Websites mentioned:
>

http://www.irtc.org/
>

http://www.kychn.org/

>

http://www.hackaday.org/
>

http://weather.suso.org/
>

http://www.weatherbug.org
>

http://weather.weatherbug.com/
>

http://suso.org/docs/shell/ssh.sdf
>

http://www.bloomingpedia.org/
>

http://www.straight2yourdoor.com/
>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0TpLBObBj4&feature=related (shreder)
>
>
> I'm sure I left some stuff off of here. We all talked about a lot.
>
> --
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> Bloomington Linux Users Group
> http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:21:54 -0500
> From: Dave Cooley <dcooley@kiva.net>
> To: blug@cs.indiana.edu
> Subject: Re: [BLUG] Great meeting tonight, some notes
> Reply-To: blug@mailman.cs.indiana.edu
>
> I agree, this was an especially great meeting (and thanks for the pizza,
> Mark!). Socializing and what-not is always among my favorite
> activities; given the opportunity, I'll generally talk until somebody
> punches me in the mouth. I dug meeting at the SUSO offices- it was nice
> not having a set end-time.
>
> Here is a small addendum to Mark's set of links:
> The "Fluck Mill Road" Wunderground Weather Station is run from an iMac
> (last I heard) at fellow a geek's farmhouse:
> http://www.wunderground.com/US/IN/Bloomington.html
>
> Somebody had talked about (or asked about?) the VMWare Virtual
> Appliances. VMWare has a *ton* of community-supplied, pre-built virtual
> machines for use with VMWare Player and VMWare server. All you gotta do
> is download and start having fun. There are all sorts of things,
> including many linux distros. My personal favorites are the Squid proxy
> and Trixbox (an Asterisk phone system appliance):
> http://www.vmware.com/appliances/
>
> The Asterisk (FOSS PBX phone system) website:
> http://www.asterisk.org
>
> Digium makes (and sells) Linux-based Asterisk hardware and such, for
> those desiring a turn-key sort of thing:
> http://www.digium.com
>
> Dave Cooley
> dcooley@kiva.net
>
>
>
> Mark Krenz wrote:
> > I think people like the meet n' greet format better than a
> > presentation. It gave a lot of people a chance to talk to each other
> > across the table about a variety of topics and socialize. 13 people
> > showed up. It was cramped, but fun.
> >
> > I wanted to sent out the list of programs that I remember we talked
> > about just in case someone wanted to look them up:
> >
> > Cacti (http://www.cacti.net)
> > MRTG
> > Nagios (http://www.nagios.org)
> > Blender (http://www.blender.org/)
> >

http://www.blenderartists.org/
> >

http://wiki.blender.org/
> >

http://www.elephantsdream.org/
> >

http://www.blender-materials.org/
> >

http://www.plumiferos.com/
> >

http://suso.suso.org/xulu/Blender
> >

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=deltaray3
> > Yafray, POV-Ray, Wings3D and K3D
> > GIMP
> > Cluster SSH (cssh)
> > Xen, system virtualization
> > dd sparse images
> > VMware workstation & ESX Server
> > Amanda, backup software
> > Bakula
> > IRC and X-Chat
> > Asterisk, PBX system
> > Ekiga, soft phone
> >
> > Other Websites mentioned:
> >

http://www.irtc.org/
> >

http://www.kychn.org/

> >

http://www.hackaday.org/
> >

http://weather.suso.org/
> >

http://www.weatherbug.org
> >

http://weather.weatherbug.com/
> >

http://suso.org/docs/shell/ssh.sdf
> >

http://www.bloomingpedia.org/
> >

http://www.straight2yourdoor.com/
> >

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0TpLBObBj4&feature=related (shreder)
> >
> >
> > I'm sure I left some stuff off of here. We all talked about a lot.
> >
> >
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:35:15 -0500
> From: "Matt Standish" <mstandish@gmail.com>
> To: blug@cs.indiana.edu
> Subject: [BLUG] RMS and Soulja Boy?
> Reply-To: blug@mailman.cs.indiana.edu
>
> Yes.. This is RMS 'supermanning that ho.' laptop and all...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pube5Aynsls

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Re: [BLUG] Great meeting tonight, some notes

I tried to find the meeting, but although I knew which building, I did
not know which room, leading to a lack of success. Next time we meet in
that building, it would be good to let the security desk know about which
room has the meeting.
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[BLUG] RMS and Soulja Boy?

Yes.. This is RMS 'supermanning that ho.' laptop and all...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pube5Aynsls
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Re: [BLUG] Great meeting tonight, some notes

I agree, this was an especially great meeting (and thanks for the pizza,
Mark!). Socializing and what-not is always among my favorite
activities; given the opportunity, I'll generally talk until somebody
punches me in the mouth. I dug meeting at the SUSO offices- it was nice
not having a set end-time.

Here is a small addendum to Mark's set of links:
The "Fluck Mill Road" Wunderground Weather Station is run from an iMac
(last I heard) at fellow a geek's farmhouse:
http://www.wunderground.com/US/IN/Bloomington.html

Somebody had talked about (or asked about?) the VMWare Virtual
Appliances. VMWare has a *ton* of community-supplied, pre-built virtual
machines for use with VMWare Player and VMWare server. All you gotta do
is download and start having fun. There are all sorts of things,
including many linux distros. My personal favorites are the Squid proxy
and Trixbox (an Asterisk phone system appliance):
http://www.vmware.com/appliances/

The Asterisk (FOSS PBX phone system) website:
http://www.asterisk.org

Digium makes (and sells) Linux-based Asterisk hardware and such, for
those desiring a turn-key sort of thing:
http://www.digium.com

Dave Cooley
dcooley@kiva.net

Mark Krenz wrote:
> I think people like the meet n' greet format better than a
> presentation. It gave a lot of people a chance to talk to each other
> across the table about a variety of topics and socialize. 13 people
> showed up. It was cramped, but fun.
>
> I wanted to sent out the list of programs that I remember we talked
> about just in case someone wanted to look them up:
>
> Cacti (http://www.cacti.net)
> MRTG
> Nagios (http://www.nagios.org)
> Blender (http://www.blender.org/)
>

http://www.blenderartists.org/
>

http://wiki.blender.org/
>

http://www.elephantsdream.org/
>

http://www.blender-materials.org/
>

http://www.plumiferos.com/
>

http://suso.suso.org/xulu/Blender
>

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=deltaray3
> Yafray, POV-Ray, Wings3D and K3D
> GIMP
> Cluster SSH (cssh)
> Xen, system virtualization
> dd sparse images
> VMware workstation & ESX Server
> Amanda, backup software
> Bakula
> IRC and X-Chat
> Asterisk, PBX system
> Ekiga, soft phone
>
> Other Websites mentioned:
>

http://www.irtc.org/
>

http://www.kychn.org/

>

http://www.hackaday.org/
>

http://weather.suso.org/
>

http://www.weatherbug.org
>

http://weather.weatherbug.com/
>

http://suso.org/docs/shell/ssh.sdf
>

http://www.bloomingpedia.org/
>

http://www.straight2yourdoor.com/
>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0TpLBObBj4&feature=related (shreder)
>
>
> I'm sure I left some stuff off of here. We all talked about a lot.
>
>
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[BLUG] Great meeting tonight, some notes

I think people like the meet n' greet format better than a
presentation. It gave a lot of people a chance to talk to each other
across the table about a variety of topics and socialize. 13 people
showed up. It was cramped, but fun.

I wanted to sent out the list of programs that I remember we talked
about just in case someone wanted to look them up:

Cacti (http://www.cacti.net)
MRTG
Nagios (http://www.nagios.org)
Blender (http://www.blender.org/)

http://www.blenderartists.org/

http://wiki.blender.org/

http://www.elephantsdream.org/

http://www.blender-materials.org/

http://www.plumiferos.com/

http://suso.suso.org/xulu/Blender

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=deltaray3

Yafray, POV-Ray, Wings3D and K3D
GIMP
Cluster SSH (cssh)
Xen, system virtualization
dd sparse images
VMware workstation & ESX Server
Amanda, backup software
Bakula
IRC and X-Chat
Asterisk, PBX system
Ekiga, soft phone

Other Websites mentioned:

http://www.irtc.org/

http://www.kychn.org/

http://www.hackaday.org/

http://weather.suso.org/

http://www.weatherbug.org

http://weather.weatherbug.com/

http://suso.org/docs/shell/ssh.sdf

http://www.bloomingpedia.org/

http://www.straight2yourdoor.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0TpLBObBj4&feature=related (shreder)

I'm sure I left some stuff off of here. We all talked about a lot.

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Re: [BLUG] Get together tonight

It isn't placing knitting above Linux, it is placing my wife
above Linux. -- There's a big difference. :)

I hope it went smoothly!

Cheers,
Steven

On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 03:40:10PM -0500, Evan Boggs wrote:
> You're placing knitting above Linux? What has BLUG come to?
>
> Unlike Steven, I don't knit. I'll be there. ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Evan
>
>
> Quoting Steven Black <blacks@indiana.edu>:
>
> >I wish I could make it, but alas, it conflicts with a knitting class
> >I'm taking with my wife.
> >
> >I hope everyone has fun!
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Steven Black
> >
> >On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 06:38:37PM +0000, Mark Krenz wrote:
> >>
> >> I just wanted to remind everyone about the BLUG get together tonight
> >>at the Suso office in Fountain Square Mall at 6:30pm.
> >>
> >>--
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Re: [BLUG] Get together tonight

I should be there as well.

Dave Cooley
dcooley@kiva.net

Evan Boggs wrote:
> You're placing knitting above Linux? What has BLUG come to?
>
> Unlike Steven, I don't knit. I'll be there. ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Evan
>
>
> Quoting Steven Black <blacks@indiana.edu>:
>
>> I wish I could make it, but alas, it conflicts with a knitting class
>> I'm taking with my wife.
>>
>> I hope everyone has fun!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steven Black
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 06:38:37PM +0000, Mark Krenz wrote:
>>>
>>> I just wanted to remind everyone about the BLUG get together tonight
>>> at the Suso office in Fountain Square Mall at 6:30pm.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mark Krenz
>>> Bloomington Linux Users Group
>>> http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
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Re: [BLUG] Get together tonight

You're placing knitting above Linux? What has BLUG come to?

Unlike Steven, I don't knit. I'll be there. ;)

Cheers,
Evan

Quoting Steven Black <blacks@indiana.edu>:

> I wish I could make it, but alas, it conflicts with a knitting class
> I'm taking with my wife.
>
> I hope everyone has fun!
>
> Cheers,
> Steven Black
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 06:38:37PM +0000, Mark Krenz wrote:
>>
>> I just wanted to remind everyone about the BLUG get together tonight
>> at the Suso office in Fountain Square Mall at 6:30pm.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Krenz
>> Bloomington Linux Users Group
>> http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/blug
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Re: [BLUG] Get together tonight

I wish I could make it, but alas, it conflicts with a knitting class
I'm taking with my wife.

I hope everyone has fun!

Cheers,
Steven Black

On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 06:38:37PM +0000, Mark Krenz wrote:
>
> I just wanted to remind everyone about the BLUG get together tonight
> at the Suso office in Fountain Square Mall at 6:30pm.
>
> --
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> http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
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[BLUG] Get together tonight

I just wanted to remind everyone about the BLUG get together tonight
at the Suso office in Fountain Square Mall at 6:30pm.

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Re: [BLUG] January get together

On Jan 5, 2008 11:02 PM, Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
>
> Well, there doesn't seem to be any interest in finding another
> location to hold large meetings, so I thought instead we could have a
> "get together" with a smaller group of people.
>
> So whoever is interested, let's meet at 6:30pm on Thursday January
> 17th in Suso's conference room. There will be pizza and drinks and we
> can talk about whatever. I was thinking that I could show you some of
> the things I've been doing lately like setting up an Asterisk server
> (VoIP), Postfix gateway, Xen, Apache, etc. It would be a good
> oppurtunity for people to see how a web hosting provider runs. Or
> whatever comes up, its up to the people who attend. This will not be a
> sales pitch or anything like that. Its just a place to meet that won't
> kick us out when they close.

I'll bring an OLPC :) And Postfix sounds really cool too.

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Re: [BLUG] January get together

The closer this gets, the more stoked I am. See you all there!

Dave Cooley
dcooley@kiva.net

Mark Krenz wrote:
> Well, there doesn't seem to be any interest in finding another
> location to hold large meetings, so I thought instead we could have a
> "get together" with a smaller group of people.
>
> So whoever is interested, let's meet at 6:30pm on Thursday January
> 17th in Suso's conference room. There will be pizza and drinks and we
> can talk about whatever. I was thinking that I could show you some of
> the things I've been doing lately like setting up an Asterisk server
> (VoIP), Postfix gateway, Xen, Apache, etc. It would be a good
> oppurtunity for people to see how a web hosting provider runs. Or
> whatever comes up, its up to the people who attend. This will not be a
> sales pitch or anything like that. Its just a place to meet that won't
> kick us out when they close.
>
> Getting to the office is pretty easy. Go to the front entrance of
> Fountain Square Mall where the green awning is. Go inside and back to
> the security desk where the red payphone is (the Tardis). Instead of
> traveling to another dimension, take a right and go down the stairs and
> we are right there. I'll either be in the main office (008B) or the
> room next door (008).
>
> See you there,
> Mark
>
>
>
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Re: [BLUG] Anyone here use Blender?

I would be interested in learning this.
Matt

Mark Krenz wrote:
> Cool. Would you be interested in just getting together sometime to
> talk about Blender? Anyone else interested in this?
>
> If you don't know, Blender is a high quality open source 3D modeling,
> rendering and animation tool. It can also be used for things like video
> and audio editing.
>
> Mark
>
> On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 11:11:55PM GMT, adam [docpeppernuwer@yahoo.com] said the following:
>
>> I would like to learn blender (and 3d work for that
>> matter) and know several people who would like to
>> switch.
>>
>>
>> --- Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Does anyone on the list use or know someone in
>>> Bloomington that uses
>>> the 3d software Blender?
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [BLUG] Anyone here use Blender?

Cool. Would you be interested in just getting together sometime to
talk about Blender? Anyone else interested in this?

If you don't know, Blender is a high quality open source 3D modeling,
rendering and animation tool. It can also be used for things like video
and audio editing.

Mark

On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 11:11:55PM GMT, adam [docpeppernuwer@yahoo.com] said the following:
>
> I would like to learn blender (and 3d work for that
> matter) and know several people who would like to
> switch.
>
>
> --- Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > Does anyone on the list use or know someone in
> > Bloomington that uses
> > the 3d software Blender?
> >
> > --
> > Mark Krenz
> > Bloomington Linux Users Group
> > http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
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Re: [BLUG] OLPC

Here's an extensive evaluation of the OLPC XO-1. Some of the pics are
really detailed.
http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=218
>
>
> */Simón Ruiz <simon.a.ruiz@gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
> From: "Simón Ruiz" <simon.a.ruiz@gmail.com>
> To: blug@cs.indiana.edu
> Subject: Re: [BLUG] OLPC
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:50:13 -0500
>
> The one from Red Hat hasn't been updates in over 6 months.
>
> A much more up-to-date one is available. There is an Xubuntu based one
> that works on all the hardware we've tested it on
> (which is neat because if you log out of the
> X session they log you into by default, you change the session and log
> directly into Sugar, otherwise you can run the emulator from the
> Applications menu from within XFCE).
>
> And there's a more recent one, based directly on the Red Hat builds it
> seems, which we HAVEN'T gotten to work on the hardware we've tested it
> on. It might work for you, though:
>
>
> Hope you have an awesome day!
>
> Simón
>
> On 12/11/07, adam wrote:
> > As for the One Laptop Per Child project, I hopefully will have
> scraped together enough for one (2 of course) by 12/31 (the
> deadline for the buy one get one deal) and should have recieved it
> in time for the february meeting. Also it runs is a lightweight,
> redhat engineered, linux based OS called Sugar; which is available
> as an ISO here:
>

http://olpc.download.redhat.com/olpc/streams/sdk/build1/livecd/
> > That's all the news from Lake Wobegon,
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
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