Tuesday, July 7, 2009

Re: [BLUG] Old PCs

Since there is at least one of you interested, I'll not feed the scrap
heap. I'll round everything up and get it in to one room and you can
come take a look and I'll be able to better post a list of what I
have. But again, be aware that we're probably talking a month down
the road at the very least. I have that much crap spread out through
the house (its a six-bedroom two-story farm house, plus a barn twice
the size of the house, and I live alone) :-(

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Steven Black<blacks@indiana.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 12:08:40AM -0400, David M. Moore wrote:
>> I'm trying to do some house cleaning over the next few weeks.  Among
>> other things, I've got anywhere from 8 to a dozen or so older PCs.
>> We're talking PIIs and PIIIs here, and possibly a couple of Pentiums,
>> 486s, and I think there's even a 286 or 386 machine in the pile.  I
>> also have some loose motherboards of the same sort of vintage.  None
>> will have memory or hard drives.  The PC carcasses *I think* all have
>> CD drives, as well as processors.  I also have a few CRT monitors.
>>
>> This stuff is spread throughout my house (its a big house) and is
>> nowhere near ready for anyone to pick them up.  That would be at least
>> two or three weeks down the road.  But I want to know if anyone here
>> is even interested in having this kind of stuff (free of course).  I
>> live just off SR46 in Bartholomew County (Columbus) just a few miles
>> past the Bartholomew/Brown county line.
>>
>> Otherwise if no one is interested, conveniently one of my clients is a
>> large scrap metal processor and I'm just going to start carrying stuff
>> over there every time I pass it.
>
> Interestingly, I think almost all the computers I own are also from this
> age range. I think my wife would kill me if I accepted all eight, but
> I'd be very interested in some of them. I was thinking if someone else
> is interested we could split it up so each person has the opportunity
> to take similarly aged components. However if I'm the only one foolish
> enough to be interested, I'd be happy to take the cream of your crop
> off your hands (which, interestingly enough, would include some of the
> free-floating parts. I may be able to upgrade some of my boxes...).
>
> I also wanted to remind people that FreeDOS 1.0 has been out for some
> time. A 286 -- even without a hard drive -- makes a pretty nice dumb
> terminal. With a network card and a hard drive or a carefully crafted
> boot floppy, you're looking at basically a dumb terminal that uses SSH
> instead of a serial line. (Assuming you just want to use it as a gateway
> to a real machine.) Also a reminder: Dumb terminals are great for kids!
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: [BLUG] suso.org logo on the www.bloomingtonlinux.org website

On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 09:26:39PM GMT, Mark Warner [markwarner1954@att.net] said the following:
>
> I'm a desktop Linux user, but don't claim to know diddly about
> networking or servers (although by pure dumb luck I was able to set up
> an apache2 http server on this desktop) or any of the "back end" stuff
> you guys all seem to be involved with.
>

I suspect you are not alone on the list in your experience. I think
some of us older Linux users take for granted that most of the people we
learned Linux with generally learned a lot about networkinig stuff.

So perhaps before having the said presentation, we should have another
presentation on network basics. Covering things like how networks work,
IP addresses, DNS, protocols, etc. I could do this one too and I promise
to make it interesting.

How about having that presentation in August or September?


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Re: [BLUG] ssh and screen

On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 01:15:09PM -0400, Steven Black wrote:
> My laptop is configured to block SSH connections from the network, but
> it has SSH running locally with PAM-based passwords. (I've taken to
> doing this as some applications complain about the controlling PTY not
> belonging to the UID if I just do a "su $OTHERUSER -". In this context I
> think either method should work just as well.)

Ah-ha. It is 'screen' itself that complains when you try to launch
it from a shell started via 'su'.

$ screen
Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please check.

I knew there was something I used regularly that complained about it.

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Re: [BLUG] suso.org logo on the www.bloomingtonlinux.org website

Mark Krenz wrote:
> Mark Warner said:
>> Mark Krenz wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, I've thought a few times that it might be neat to have a
>>> BLUG presentation on how a web hosting provider works or something like
>>> that and use Suso as the example. But that should be up to other people
>>> to decide if we'd want that or not. We once had another meeting where a
>>> business presented and it turned more into a sales pitch and left a
>>> bitter taste in everyone's mouth.
>>
>> That I'd like to see. Do it at the office so we can see the hardware setup.
>
> Alright, is there anyone else want to second that? Mark is it mostly
> the hardware you are interested in or anything else specifically? There
> is actually a lot that can be covered and since I pretty much live in
> the industry, its hard to see from the outside what might be
> interesting.

I don't know enough to even tell you.

I'm a desktop Linux user, but don't claim to know diddly about
networking or servers (although by pure dumb luck I was able to set up
an apache2 http server on this desktop) or any of the "back end" stuff
you guys all seem to be involved with.

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Re: [BLUG] suso.org logo on the www.bloomingtonlinux.org website

> Alright, is there anyone else want to second that? Mark is it mostly
> the hardware you are interested in or anything else specifically? There
> is actually a lot that can be covered and since I pretty much live in
> the industry, its hard to see from the outside what might be
> interesting.
>
> If I did this I'd actually like to hold off until like October or
> November because right now we're in the middle of fixing a lot of things
> and changeovers from our recent move. Plus, I later in the year we'll
> be getting into IPv6 more and it would be a nice time to show where that
> is going.
I would like to see it in the Fall if I can remember to come to the
meeting.

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Re: [BLUG] suso.org logo on the www.bloomingtonlinux.org website

On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 02:49:48AM GMT, Mark Warner [markwarner1954@att.net] said the following:
>
> Mark Krenz wrote:
> >
> > Actually, I've thought a few times that it might be neat to have a
> >BLUG presentation on how a web hosting provider works or something like
> >that and use Suso as the example. But that should be up to other people
> >to decide if we'd want that or not. We once had another meeting where a
> >business presented and it turned more into a sales pitch and left a
> >bitter taste in everyone's mouth.
>
> That I'd like to see. Do it at the office so we can see the hardware setup.
>

Alright, is there anyone else want to second that? Mark is it mostly
the hardware you are interested in or anything else specifically? There
is actually a lot that can be covered and since I pretty much live in
the industry, its hard to see from the outside what might be
interesting.

If I did this I'd actually like to hold off until like October or
November because right now we're in the middle of fixing a lot of things
and changeovers from our recent move. Plus, I later in the year we'll
be getting into IPv6 more and it would be a nice time to show where that
is going.

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