Friday, June 22, 2007

Re: [BLUG] [Fwd: protected files]

The DMCA stuff is crazy. I don't agree with the logic at all. (I suspect
few people could agree with the logic and be supporters of free
software.)

Speaking of troubles with DRM...

I've rented a DVD only to find it didn't work on the DVD player we were
going to use to watch it.

Was there anything wrong with the DVD? No, it looked new or almost new.
In fact, it worked on another DVD player. However, it just had
copy-protection logic which was a little over-aggressive and broke that
DVD player.

Mind you, the DVD player was unaltered. It wasn't like it was an issue
with a region-free DVD player trying to play an "Enhanced Region 1" DVD.
(See http://www.dvdtalk.com/rce.html for details on Regional Coding
Enhancement.)

Legally my only recourse was to watch the DVD in another room with a
player that supported that copy-protection technology. (Or to return the
disc for a refund.)

It is just a matter of time before music and movies come with an EULA
explicitly stating you have a license to watch/view the media and you do
not own it, much like commercial software.

Cheers,
Steven Black

On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 13:02 -0400, Joe Auty wrote:
> iTunes is also starting to offer some DRM free tracks, although I'm
> not sure if this will apply to audiobooks or movies in addition to
> music.
>
> The way I look at all of this is that if you buy something, you buy it
> for what it is and accept it for what it is. If you are not hip to
> DRM, get your stuff from the library or some source that doesn't do
> this. If you decide to obtain your stuff illegally or manipulate your
> property by removing copyright protection, that is your personal
> choice and these are all choices we have to make, but it's kind of
> lame to ask people to help you to do this. I'm not suggesting that
> Kelly is asking for help since she is just unsure of what options she
> has, but I've seen this kind of thing happen on message boards and
> such.
>
> It's even more lame to complain about the product being protected in
> the first place after buying it, as it should be up to us to research
> what we are buying ahead of time (and up to the vendor to make this
> clear too). Perhaps iTunes should have a refund policy, but I'm not
> sure how they could facilitate deleting files from iTunes libraries
> (nor do I think that they should, in this case).
>
> In the case of Kelly, she said she wanted to play NetLibrary audio
> books (probably Windows Media protected) on her iPod, but then shared
> with you a URL about how to convert protected iTunes m4p files into
> mp3s. If iTunes won't play the file, it isn't protected by iTunes DRM.
>
>
>
> Steven Black wrote:
> > Removing copyright protection is a criminal act. It is a violation of
> > the DMCA.
> >
> > From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA
> >
> > |It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or
> > |services that are used to circumvent measures that control access to
> > |copyrighted works (commonly known as DRM) and criminalizes the act of
> > |circumventing an access control, even when there is no infringement of
> > |copyright itself.
> >
> > In addition to violating US law, it likely also violates the license
> > agreements with those services.
> >
> > If you want free audiobooks, I recommend http://librivox.org/
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Steven Black
> >
> > On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 12:18 -0400, Jeff Welty wrote:
> >
> > > I'm forwarding this since I don't have much experience with media files
> > > such as the ones my friend is mentioning. I turned her on to Unix stuff
> > > a few semesters ago so she is willing to try any techniques on Linux.
> > > I'll relay any suggestions to her.
> > > Thanx,
> > > Jeff
> > > email message attachment (protected files)
> > >
> > > > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > > > From: Polacek, Kelly Myer <kpolacek@indiana.edu>
> > > > To: jtwelty@imap.iu.edu
> > > > Subject: protected files
> > > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:45:29 -0400
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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> --
> Joe Auty
> NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians
> http://www.netmusician.org
> joe@netmusician.org

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