Saturday, November 10, 2007

Re: [BLUG] environmentalism and limiting pop. growth (was NOV meeting topic)

On Nov 9, 2007 10:47 AM, August R. Wohlt <blug@isidore.net> wrote:
>
> Perhaps you meant homeostasis instead of equilibrium?

Precisely the idea I was going for.

> The vhem movement suffers from this because unless you're already onboard
> with its ideas, no amount of rational explanation is going to change the
> physical, evolutionary, and spiritual feeling that it's main focus is
> anti-being-alive rather than pro-planet.

I agree. I certainly find it hard to take their message seriously when
they've decided to distill it into that name.

> The very idea that it's doing so to support its own agenda
> and profit is what is going to carry it forward. It's basically an
> environmental trojan in the capitalOS.

Well, that's the only way I can think of to make a significant change,
is if it's economically a no-brainer. Green technology won't be pushed
by corporate America until it's in their best economic interests.

Without corporate support, the only way you'd get anything done is
through legislation, which requires popular support (which is heavily
swayed by corporate interests...).

> Inevitably, it will be abused and the
> green meme will be trashed, just like Wal*mart will trash the Organic meme,
> but in its place I have no doubt in the fountainhead of creativity that
> human beings corral is already coming up with something far better, and that
> its temporary reign will have left a beneficial mark on the planet's
> history.

Yeah, I'd like to think we're smart and creative enough to save
ourselves and our home from ourselves. :-)

Simón

P.S. Interestingly enough, I happened to listen yesterday to a "Word
for Word" <wordforword.publicradio.org> where the speaker mentioned
the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement near the end of a discussion
about what would happen to the planet if humans were suddenly out of
the picture. It was a fascinating listen, which might interest those
of you who consume podcasts.

<http://wordforword.publicradio.org/programs/2007/10/12/>

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