Friday, July 31, 2009

Re: [BLUG] Did ATT mess up your cell phone, too?

Yeah, I guess they go through Russia and then probably through Europe.
5 years ago when I was in Uzbekistan (my wife is from Tashkent), I did
some traces and they mostly went through China. I heard that most of the
ISPs in Uzbekistan go through one central ISP and then through China
from there. I've also heard of some of the other countries going through
China. But again, that might be out of date information.

Perhaps they have changed since then due to China's great firewall
practices.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:52:40PM GMT, Jonathan North Washington [jonwashi@indiana.edu] said the following:
> Ah, wasn't sure if tracert would tell the right stuff about the traffic.
>
> So, a lot of sites I tried tracerting left out too much interesting
> stuff, but I finally got one with most of the interesting stuff:
>
> jonathan@terek:~$ sudo tracert amazon.com [23:40]
> traceroute to amazon.com (72.21.207.65), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
> 1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.174 ms 3.106 ms *
> 2 * * *
> 3 * * *
> 4 * * *
> 5 * * *
> 6 * asta-core-l2-1-2.online.kz (92.47.151.165) 47.863 ms 48.215 ms
> 7 asta-core-l1-1.online.kz (92.47.145.41) 48.333 ms 50.141 ms 50.946 ms
> 8 akto-core-l1-1.online.kz (92.47.145.6) 51.283 ms 51.683 ms 52.041 ms
> 9 akto-core-l2-1-2.online.kz (92.47.145.30) 54.361 ms 54.695 ms 55.065 ms
> 10 akto-gate-1.online.kz (92.47.151.174) 52.721 ms 53.061 ms 53.482 ms
> 11 MSK-D2-HQ-xe2-3-0.main.synterra.ru (83.229.241.233) 73.830 ms
> 74.174 ms 73.780 ms
> 12 MSK-B1-HQ-1-0-0.0.main.synterra.ru (83.229.226.85) 74.154 ms
> 70.385 ms 73.296 ms
> 13 ae0-304.RT.V10.MSK.RU.retn.net (87.245.253.169) 73.866 ms 71.456
> ms 71.612 ms
> 14 xe000-8.RT.EQX.ASH.US.retn.net (87.245.233.118) 220.277 ms
> 220.575 ms 222.427 ms
> 15 * * *
> 16 * * *
> 17 * * *
> 18 * * *
> 19 * * *
> 20 * * *
> 21 * * *
> 22 * * *
> 23 * * *
> 24 * * *
> 25 * * *
> 26 * * *
> 27 * * *
> 28 * * *
> 29 * * *
> 30 * * *
>
> That's through Kazakhstan: probably first Almaty, then apparently
> Astana and Aqtöbe. Then a few hops in Russia and then across the
> Atlantic. With some other sites there've been some hops in Europe.
>
> Also, traffic directed to China also goes through Russia, and
> apparently Europe and even America (?!):
>
> jonathan@terek:~$ sudo tracert english.cpc.people.com.cn [23:45]
> traceroute to english.cpc.people.com.cn (202.108.251.45), 30 hops max,
> 60 byte packets
> 1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.137 ms 1.596 ms *
> 2 * * *
> 3 * * *
> 4 * * *
> 5 * * *
> 6 * asta-core-l2-1-2.online.kz (92.47.151.165) 45.263 ms 45.946 ms
> 7 asta-core-l1-1.online.kz (92.47.145.41) 46.341 ms 46.780 ms 47.423 ms
> 8 akto-core-l1-1.online.kz (92.47.145.6) 48.723 ms 49.194 ms 49.819 ms
> 9 akto-core-l2-1-2.online.kz (92.47.145.30) 48.119 ms 50.126 ms 51.798 ms
> 10 akto-gate-1.online.kz (92.47.151.174) 50.290 ms 50.665 ms 51.027 ms
> 11 MSK-D2-HQ-xe2-3-0.main.synterra.ru (83.229.241.233) 75.181 ms
> 75.483 ms 71.208 ms
> 12 msk-b2-hq-ae0.main.synterra.ru (83.229.228.2) 71.951 ms 73.626
> ms 77.475 ms
> 13 m9-cr01-ge3-3.msk.stream-internet.net (195.34.38.37) 78.326 ms
> 78.358 ms 71.919 ms
> 14 anc-cr01-po3.ff.stream-internet.net (195.34.53.102) 354.614 ms
> 349.316 ms 349.412 ms
> 15 sl-gw10-fra-11-0-0.sprintlink.net (217.151.254.133) 113.039 ms
> 113.329 ms 114.096 ms
> 16 sl-bb21-fra-8-0-0.sprintlink.net (217.147.96.41) 114.607 ms
> 114.616 ms 114.908 ms
> 17 sl-bb20-par-14-0-0.sprintlink.net (213.206.129.65) 125.111 ms
> 126.494 ms 126.325 ms
> 18 sl-crs1-dc-0-8-2-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.19.146) 205.747 ms * *
> 19 * * *
> 20 * * *
> 21 * * *
> 22 * * *
> 23 * * *
> 24 * * *
> 25 * * *
> 26 * * *
> 27 * * *
> 28 * * *
> 29 * * *
> 30 * * *
>
> Totally the wrong direction, but if that's where the connections are,
> okay I guess... Though you'd think sharing a border with a country
> (even if nearly impassible) would mean something.
>
> --
> Jonathan
>
> 2009/7/31 Mark Warner <markwarner1954@att.net>:
> >
> >
> > Jonathan North Washington wrote:
> >>
> >> 2009/7/31 Mark Krenz <mark@slugbug.org>:
> >>>
> >>> Do you know if their connection goes through China?
> >>
> >> Interesting question. is there a nice linuxy way to find out?
> >
> > tracert should tell you
> >
> > mark@mepis8:~$ su
> > Password:
> > root@mepis8:/home/mark# tracert www.google.com
> > traceroute to www.google.com (74.125.53.99), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> >  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.808 ms  0.953 ms *
> >  2  * * *
> >  3  * * *
> >  4  * * *
> >  5  * * *
> >  6  * be-10-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net (68.87.229.109)  34.049 ms
> >  37.459 ms
> >  7  pos-1-14-0-0-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.90.45) 38.096 ms
> >  39.694 ms  40.175 ms
> >  8  xe-10-3-0.edge1.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.71.248.9)  38.605 ms  38.847 ms
> >  39.084 ms
> >  9  vlan51.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.138.158)  39.382 ms  39.871 ms
> >  40.526 ms
> > 10  ae-3.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net (4.69.132.61)  71.492 ms  71.878 ms 72.110
> > ms
> > 11  ae-2.ebr2.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.69.132.53)  92.614 ms  92.981 ms
> > 101.897 ms
> > 12  ae-21-52.car1.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.68.105.34)  98.746 ms  89.011 ms
> >  89.181 ms
> > 13  GOOGLE-INC.car1.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.79.104.74)  136.810 ms 137.203 ms
> >  137.434 ms
> > 14  209.85.249.32 (209.85.249.32)  142.580 ms  142.960 ms *
> > 15  * * *
> > 16  * * *
> > 17  * * *
> > 18  * * *
> > 19  * * *
> > 20  * * *
> > 21  * * *
> > 22  * * *
> > 23  * * *
> > 24  * * *
> > 25  * * *
> > 26  * * *
> > 27  * * *
> > 28  * * *
> > 29  * * *
> > 30  * * *
> > root@mepis8:/home/mark#
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mark Warner
> > MEPIS Linux
> > Registered Linux User #415318
> >
> >
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