Friday, August 1, 2008

Re: [BLUG] More OpenMoko

If someone has one, I'd love to hear a review about it.

Cheers,
Steven Black

On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 12:33:10PM -0400, Matt Zink wrote:
> Hey Everyone:
> Kind of a tangent from yesterday's discussion about LiMo phones - has anyone
> purchased one of the OpenMoko phones (Neo 1973 = developer's version,
> Freerunner = consumer version)? If so, would you contact me off list at
> matthewzin@gmail.com? I'd appreciate it.
> Matt

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[BLUG] More OpenMoko

Hey Everyone:
Kind of a tangent from yesterday's discussion about LiMo phones - has anyone purchased one of the OpenMoko phones (Neo 1973 = developer's version, Freerunner = consumer version)?  If so, would you contact me off list at matthewzin@gmail.com?  I'd appreciate it.
Matt

Re: [BLUG] LiMo Phones, Plans

The onscreen thumbboard version has keys roughly the same size or
bigger than the hardware thumbboard on the n810, it just takes up
screen real estate while being used.

I never really tried interactive stuff like pine, but I would whip
bash out real quick and do some minor network checking (ping this,
tracepath that...) or run a simple ssh command or two on the server
(start or restart a service, f'r'instance).

It also connects right up to our VoIP server as a phone (which, if
you're comfortable wearing a goofy bluetooth headset isn't bad; I tend
not to use it unless I'm nowhere near a "real" phone).

Re: the memory slots, yeah, I keep an 8GB card in the internal slot,
and the external one is still available.

Re: the FM radio, I rarely if ever use it, but if you're into radio
it's pretty neat; you can either scan through the frequencies, or have
it download a list of local radio stations so you can navigate them by
call letters.

Simón

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Josh Goodman <jogoodman@gmail.com> wrote:
> How usable is the onscreen keyboard for the 800? Is it good enough to be
> able to occasionally ssh into a server without going insane? I'm not
> talking about completely working remotely via either tablet, I'm thinking
> more along the lines of checking on running jobs and using pine. I've been
> mulling over getting one or the other and the hardware keyboard seems really
> appealing. Aside from that I prefer the 2 memory slots and FM radio that
> the N800 has.
>
> Josh

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Thursday, July 31, 2008

Re: [BLUG] LiMo Phones, Plans

I actually was salivating for all of 2007 waiting for the OpenMoko phone's consumer edition, but stopped visiting their website over time.  I see now the consumer version has been released - we might have a winner!  Any input on anything pertaining to cell phones would be welcome to this n00b.  I'm going to start checking into plans as well, and would welcome responses to that also.  (There's already been some good advice in this thread.)  My own values make me very reluctant to go with AT&T because of their complicity (and subsequent lobbying for protection from lawsuits) in domestic spying, but I'm guessing there's no such thing as a shiny, innocent telcom co.
Anyway - does anyone have an OpenMoko phone?  What do you think of it?
Matt

Re: [BLUG] LiMo Phones, Plans

Sorry, I kinda hijacked the thread. The n800 and n810 do run Linux, but
are not phones. They have Bluetooth capability, as do most cell phones.
I intended to use that pairing for the internet access.

One of my friends uses a Blackberry to ssh home to check various things,
but I know it doesn't run Linux itself. It does have a very tiny
keyboard, which would be easier to type on than a regular keypad. Those
tiny keyboards are still hell to type on.

I have no experience with loading Linux or other third-party firmware
onto mobile phones, and I know of only a few very fancy phones that use
Linux out of the box. The FreeRunner, for example (GreenPhone is no
longer made). OpenMoko (http://www.openmoko.com/) and Qtopia
(http://www.qtopia.net/modules/devices/) present a decent mobile Linux
stack. To be honest, I think any phone with a usable keyboard and a
decent ssh client should be enough. I'm not that eager to run a server
from my phone.

Richard Knepper wrote:
> What, no openmoko?
>
> Matt Zink wrote:
> | Thanks for the clarification - shows you how little I know about cell
> | phones in general, let alone LiMo phones.
> |
> | On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Michael Schultheiss
> | <schultmc@cinlug.org <mailto:schultmc@cinlug.org>> wrote:
> |
> | Matt Zink wrote:
> | > And these are LiMo based phones, right?
> |
> | No, the N800 and N801 are internet tablets. They lake phone
> | capabilities afaik.
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Re: [BLUG] LiMo Phones, Plans

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| Thanks for the clarification - shows you how little I know about cell
| phones in general, let alone LiMo phones.
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| On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Michael Schultheiss
| <schultmc@cinlug.org <mailto:schultmc@cinlug.org>> wrote:
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| Matt Zink wrote:
| > And these are LiMo based phones, right?
|
| No, the N800 and N801 are internet tablets. They lake phone
| capabilities afaik.
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Re: [BLUG] LiMo Phones, Plans

Thanks for the clarification - shows you how little I know about cell phones in general, let alone LiMo phones.

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Michael Schultheiss <schultmc@cinlug.org> wrote:
Matt Zink wrote:
>    And these are LiMo based phones, right?

No, the N800 and N801 are internet tablets.  They lake phone
capabilities afaik.
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