a champ. I don't do a ton with it, but it performs like a champ when I
need it too.
On 11/5/09, Steven Black <blacks@indiana.edu> wrote:
> 512M of RAM is just enough RAM to be in the middle of swapping-hell in
> Windows Vista *or* Windows 7. Neither OS will be usable on the machine.
> And I mean, literally, she would be better off sticking to machines in
> computer labs/libraries/etc than trying to use it.
>
> The laptop-license of Windows XP that came with the system became
> invalid with the destruction of the install media. The license on the
> bottom was only ever valid with both the physical hardware as well as
> with the original install media. (This is usually a physical partition.)
>
> You are running in to the same reason that it is impossible for Goodwill
> and the Salvation Army to resell modern computers. They can't insure
> it has a legal version of Windows so when they can not reject them at
> delivery time, they have to throw away the CPU. This is the same
> reason pawn shops require the original media -- they've been sued by
> Microsoft for selling illegal versions of Windows when it did not
> include the original media.
>
> Your best bet is to find someone selling Windows XP online. Some
> retaillers may still have it. (Unlikely -- and costly -- as it may be.)
>
> Ideally, you want to just install Linux and Wine. Unlike a VM, Wine does
> not require a license to a Windows OS.
>
> My recommendation: Install Linux exclusively. Tell her about Wine and
> how it might work, but remind her that the big reason a person needs a
> laptop is usually for writing papers, and that Linux will work just as
> well for that. Then install Wine and try to get the software she needs
> to run on it.
>
> If Linux and Wine won't work for her at all, then she'll have to pay
> real money to get a real laptop. There's just no getting around it.
>
> Cheers,
> Steven
>
> On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 11:50:37AM -0500, Mark Warner wrote:
>> It's a 2.0GHz Celeron with 512MB RAM. I got it off of FreeCycle with a
>> totally trashed OS and no install media, of course. I was hoping to put
>> a more legit version of XP on it, rather than the IU volume licensed OS
>> that we all know is available.
>>
>> My understanding is that she is going into the medical technology
>> (transcription, coding, etc.) program. I can only assume she'll be
>> working in a Win environment. In these types of situations, what I like
>> to do is offer a dual boot Lin/Win setup, and encourage the user to
>> spend as much time as possible in the Lin environment.
>>
>> My personal playtoy laptop is a Dell C600 700MHz/512MB/20G machine, that
>> has a "just in case" load of XP (never has been needed), a default of
>> MEPIS 8, and a partition that I use to install and play around with new
>> stuff. That last currently has a load of Karmic. Yes, it runs well, but
>> it doesn't have the "snap" that the MEPIS install does.
>>
>>
>> Mark Krenz wrote:
>> > If its not going to have enough horsepower to run a VM on top of the
>> > OS, then its probably not enough to run Vista or Win7 then. Right?
>> >
>> > I recently install Ubuntu on an old Dell 600 series laptop and was
>> > rather surprised by how fast it was and all the stuff I could run
>> > normally. It may seem risky to try to get them to try using a different
>> > OS, but we took that risk in the 90s a lot and got through it. 10 years
>> > later its much safer to do and you're much more likely to be successful
>> > in converting a user.
>> >
>> > I think one thing that the Linux advocates forgot to do is to teach a
>> > new generation of Linux advocates how to promote Linux. An OS can't
>> > promote itself, it needs users to do that.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 02:34:22PM GMT, Mark Warner
>> > [markwarner1954@att.net] said the following:
>> >> Of course. Except for the facts that
>> >>
>> >> 1) the machine I'm cobbling together isn't going to have much
>> >> horsepower, at least not enough to run a VM with decent performance
>> >>
>> >> 2) you still need an OS and software for the VM. We all know the IU
>> >> stuff is easily obtained, but I was hoping to be more legit.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mark Krenz wrote:
>> >>> As if it has to be said.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sounds like a great opportunity to spring Ubuntu and Wine or
>> >>> Virtualbox on them.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 09:55:16PM GMT, Mark Warner
>> >>> [markwarner1954@att.net] said the following:
>> >>>> I have been asked to rebuild a computer for a new Ivy Tech student,
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> was wondering if they have access to Microsoft operating systems and
>> >>>> software similar to the arrangement that IU students, faculty, and
>> >>>> staff
>> >>>> enjoy. The student didn't know herself.
>> >>
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