Saturday, September 1, 2007

Re: [BLUG] VMWare Workstation and full virtualization

Gaddis, Jeremy L. wrote:
> The main difference that I know of is that, when using full virt, the
> guest OS does not require any modifications and is not aware that it is
> running in a virtualized environment. Under para virt, modifications
> *are* required to the guest OS. BTW, para-virt is faster.
>

Ahhh.. thanks for this clarification.

I'm not sure where I read that full virtualization provides direct
hardware access mediated via the Hyperviser, but I thank you for forcing
me to research this a little further.

So really, if you want 3D acceleration for games, there is no VM
solution that will cut it at this point. I guess that about sums it up?

I could have sworn that one of the VM makers included some direct
hardware support. Looking into this further, VMWare offers some
experimental DirectX accel, and a forum post says that Virtual PC does
too. I guess that's what Mark meant by this pushing the envelope

Oh well, the game that I wanted to run (Civ IV) does seem to work in Wine:

http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/06/10/special-civilization-iv-playable-on-linux/


What kind of performance hit can one expect with Wine these days?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blug-admin@cs.indiana.edu [mailto:blug-admin@cs.indiana.edu] On
> Behalf Of Joe Auty
> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 7:51 PM
> To: blug@cs.indiana.edu
> Subject: Re: [BLUG] VMWare Workstation and full virtualization
>
> Shing-Shong Shei wrote:
>> No, this is not the case -- who has control of the video
>> card if there are more than two VMs running at the same
>> time? (Same for most, if not all, I/O devices.) --SSS
>>
>
> I thought this was mediated by the hyperviser?
>
> Okay, so what is the difference been full and para virtualization then?
>
>
>
>>>
>>> I thought that under full virtualization the native video card would
> be
>>> accessed, rather than the one emulated/provided by VMWare?
>>>
>>> Anyone care to illuminate?
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