Wednesday, June 3, 2009

Re: [BLUG] Alternative focus

On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 03:18:13AM GMT, Gillis, Chad [rcgillis@indiana.edu] said the following:
>
> >I thought Chad was talking about "No raise window on mouse focus" at
> >first, but then he mentioned that he wants to be able to paste into a
> >window using middle mouse button or whatever without raising the window.
> >Is that right Chad? I'm not sure what setting that would be. FVWM no
> >doubt would let you do something like that, but I've never seen it on
> >Gnome. Of all things, I think twm lets you do that too.

Typing and clicking are still two different things. In Gnome, typing
in a window won't raise it, but clicking on it does.

> It might sound pointless if you've never used it, but now that I've
> been using it for a while I've gotten used to it. Ben mentioned that
> he likes to watch some video and let it stay above the window that he's
> working in. Today I was listening to some audio in a small window and
> was periodically rewinding and pausing the audio while I took notes in
> the window below. Also sometimes I like to copy from one window on top
> and paste into the one below without switching back and forth using
> alt-tab. In fact sometimes I have three layers of windows, one on top
> of the other, and they all stay put. I guess it would also be possible
> to just resize the windows so that they don't overlap, but like you say
> Mark sometimes we get used to some particular way of doing something,
> and then we can get picky if we can't find it somewhere else.

Unless you have more than 2 window layers that you need to keep
organized at their respective layers, you can still accomplish what you
want using the "Always on top" function in Gnome and many other window
managers and environments. I've had the same requirement where I want a
movie top remain on top of other windows, etc. So this is equivilent
functionality for what you are doing.

If you have some case where you want 3 windows open, all overlapping and
you can click on any of them and they will stay at their respective
level, then this might be in the realm that developers would tell you
that

Its really too bad that sawmill/sawfish didn't remain the defacto WM for
Gnome, because it would have allowed you to do this with some LISP.
Actually, you might be able to get sawfish working with Gnome (haven't
tried it in years) and then you could have a lot of functionality that
FVWM has that metacity lacks.

You might also look into Devil's Pie, which provides some of the
window matching functionality that Sawfish had:

http://burtonini.com/blog/computers/devilspie


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Mark Krenz
Bloomington Linux Users Group
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