Wednesday, June 3, 2009

Re: [BLUG] Alternative focus

On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:23:06PM GMT, Steven Black [blacks@indiana.edu] said the following:
>
> What Chad's talking about is generally called "Focus Follows Mouse".
> There are a number of variations upon this theme. Some of them have
> similar names but different meanings.
>
> For instance, in KDE (4, at least), this is configured through the
> "Window Behavior" settings panel, in the "Window Behavior" section
> the first tab is called "Focus".
>
> There's a number of options here including:
>
> Focus stealing prevention level: (none, low, normal, high, extreme)
> Policy: (Click to Focus, Focus Follows Mouse, Focus Under Mouse,
> Focus Strictly Under Mouse)
> (checkbox) Raise, with the following delay: XXX ms
> (checkbox) Delay focus by: XXX ms
> (checkbox) Click raises active window
>
> I think what KDE calls "Focus Follows Mouse" is called "Sloppy Focus"
> by FVWM. (It has been a long time since I used FVWM.) What FVWM calls
> "Focus Follows Mouse" would be closer to "Focus Under Mouse", or "Focus
> Strictly Under Mouse". -- I'm not sure how these are different in KDE.)
>
> How is it different? The biggest difference is the behavior when the
> mouse is on the Desktop. FVWM doesn't use the Desktop much, and when
> it does, it doesn't really have things that can use the keyboard on
> the desktop.
>

I thought Chad was talking about "No raise window on mouse focus" at
first, but then he mentioned that he wants to be able to paste into a
window using middle mouse button or whatever without raising the window.
Is that right Chad? I'm not sure what setting that would be. FVWM no
doubt would let you do something like that, but I've never seen it on
Gnome. Of all things, I think twm lets you do that too.

We've talked about a number of different and perhaps advanced features:

* How a window gets focus when the mouse moves over it.
* Whether a window is raised when the mouse moves over it.
* Whether a window is raised when the moue clicks on it.
* Whether an application can give itself focus.
* Whether an application can change your desktop to give itself focus.
* Whether an application can warp your mouse to the position of the
application and give itself focus.

This may seem tedious, but because some WMs and environments have let
users configure these things individually in the past, some users get
picky when they are not available.

--
Mark Krenz
Bloomington Linux Users Group
http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
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